My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic Forum Archive (nuked Western Animation thread)
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Meta Four avatar
#222801 from Behind the scenes...
Actually Twilight Sparkle has a tendancy for this, maybe what makes her flaws kind of depthful. She has something of a one track mind that is too set on accomplishing one goal she doesn't notice the other risks or scenarios happening around her. In Lesson Zero for example the moral is about being so overfocused on one particular task and not seeing the big picture.

1. She obsessively tries to even out the icing on the cupcakes despite them all being reduced to a tiny spec on top in the process.
2. When trying to make the CMC grow attached to her doll, she is so obsessed with making them argue over loving it, she fails to realise they are actually fighting over who should be forced to play with it first anyway.

True, true. Add to that 3. Twilight visits Fluttershy to see if she needs help with being more courageous or assertive or something along those lines. She sees FS (apparently) brutalizing an adult bear, and concludes that she doesn't need any help—completely ignoring the fact that FS could (apparently) use some help dealing with her homicidal rage.

edited 12th Jun '12 8:47:41 PM by MetaFour

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Kyler Thatch avatar
#222802 from the corner of your eye
I can't argue, because he keeps bringing up the "They're willingly being there" thing. Have you people never heard of Peer Pressure, of intimidation tactics, of that principle wherby people are compelled to follow pack behaviour
We know about all that. And quite frankly, none of that is Rainbow Dash's responsibility. What do you want, we spend ten minutes of the episode having the pets file waivers of liability? Rainbow Dash interviewing each one of the contestants, do a background check on them? What?

edited 12th Jun '12 8:47:50 PM by KylerThatch

Can you tell me who you are? Can you tell me where I am?
I've forgotten how to see. I've forgotten if I can.
absolclaw avatar
#222803 from Route 120
iirc, Back when the episode aired, wasn't the main problem people had with it that RD's decision to pick Tank felt like a forced aesop?
YOU CANNOT KILL ME NOT NOW
condottiera avatar
#222804 from Chicago
I once tried to get kids to play Calvinball with me at recess. Nobody wanted to play with me, though, so I just played by myself. It's more than possible, let me tell you.
How did they ever lock the trope page of Lolita?
Fallen Legend avatar
#222805 from Mexico City!
@Edveed wow that's pretty cool I am sure my sister would love to wear that.

Now we just need a line for mensmile
I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else. C. S. Lewis
kegisak avatar
#222806
@JT: Yeah, that's a good point. I mean, consider that Hobbes manages to physically abuse Calvin on more than one occasion, not to mention tying him up so tight he can't move, it's really hard to write him off as completely imaginary.

Unless Calvin is like, psychic and it manifests through Hobbes.

[up][up]I used to play it with my friend all the time! It's fun, it's basically a creativity fight.

edited 12th Jun '12 8:49:04 PM by kegisak

edvedd avatar
#222807 from Over there. Maybe?
[up][up]The My Little Pony boutique store. The only fashion store that men will visit willingly.

edited 12th Jun '12 8:50:00 PM by edvedd

Visit my DeviantArt! I've got blood, gore, and ponies.
condottiera avatar
#222808 from Chicago
Well, I can tell you why I liked it.

It was funny and creative and it made me feel OK that I didn't have any friends and it was very, very awesome.
How did they ever lock the trope page of Lolita?
Fallen Legend avatar
#222809 from Mexico City!
@Rainbow Dash's actitude

I agree that Rainbow has a bit hard on the pets. But I agree with Jt, she wanted a pet that coul keep up with her. Just like Twilight choose owlicious for being helpful and AJ chose Winona becuase she could rely on her.

edited 12th Jun '12 8:50:01 PM by FallenLegend

I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else. C. S. Lewis
absolclaw avatar
#222810 from Route 120
What's Calvinball o_o
YOU CANNOT KILL ME NOT NOW
gingerninja 666 avatar
#222811 from Aboard The Damocles
@Kyler but her barreling into this whilst showing NO regard for those kinds of things is thoughtless.

..forgive me if I was concerned for the lives of these guys sad
"Contests fought between two masters are decided instantly. An invisible battle is now raging between the two of them." Lulu vs Schneizel
condottiera avatar
#222812 from Chicago
[up][up]Whatever you want it to be.

edited 12th Jun '12 8:51:28 PM by condottiera

How did they ever lock the trope page of Lolita?
Perpetual Lurker avatar
#222813
I do believe it is even a trope namer.
gingerninja 666 avatar
#222814 from Aboard The Damocles
@con I ain't interested in comedy right now.
"Contests fought between two masters are decided instantly. An invisible battle is now raging between the two of them." Lulu vs Schneizel
Whatshisgame avatar
#222815
We Love Fine may have used it before, though. I'm not sure.
"Vinyl Scratch" has indeed been used by WeLoveFine, but only on the website and not on The Merch itself. Now we've got "Vın̈yl Scratch" (with the dotless I and Heävy Mëtal Ümlaut, like Spinal Tap)...making both of her names fall under Spell My Name with an S [lol]
Chadaman 99 avatar
#222816
Think about it this way. RD does some pretty nutty things. Pretty sure more dangerous stuff than that gorge. Those pets knew what they where getting themselves into.
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the Librarian avatar
#222817 from his own little world
Or to be clearer, it's a game where you make up the rules as you go along.

The score can be oogie to boogie, for one thing.
Tick Tock, goes the clock/ He cradled and he rocked her/ Tick Tock, goes the clock/Till River kills the Doctor.
Fallen Legend avatar
#222818 from Mexico City!
Yeah Calvin and hobes name Noodle Incident
I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else. C. S. Lewis
condottiera avatar
#222819 from Chicago
There's drama, too. It can tell a story and be funny.

I especially like Tracer Bullet arcs. I'm a sucker for noir...

[up] They also named Most Common Superpower

edited 12th Jun '12 8:53:43 PM by condottiera

How did they ever lock the trope page of Lolita?
Japanese Teeth avatar
#222820 from Meinong's jungle
@Ginger: What Kyler said, plus RD is the only one pressuring them to take part. That's not exactly peer pressure. And again, she's not arbitrarily putting them in danger. If they're her pet they're going to be doing this kind of thing on a regular basis, which makes it kind of important that they can do it. This isn't a friend pestering another friend to snuff a packet of salt; it's more like a job interview than anything. It's kind of like interviewing for a job on a Deadliest Catch boat or to hire a stuntman or something; the job is inherently dangerous and it's your own fault if you decide to go for it. If she knew her pet was just going to chill at the house all the time, yeah, it would be thoughtless, but making them do something they're going to be doing all the time with her isn't.

@Absol: You make it up as you go.

edited 12th Jun '12 8:53:59 PM by JapaneseTeeth

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Psi 001 avatar
#222821
@Meta Four: I think that's one of her endearing vices, Twilight can actually be very one track in how she sets up things and so sometimes comes off as Innocently Insensitive or accidentally inconsiderate as a result. Even when the Straight Man, she sometimes gets humor from the fact she is overset on proving her foil wrong, often exasperated or over the top in getting everyone to understand her point (eg. one amusing Innocently Insensitive point in Mmmystery where she attempts to point out Pinkie is wrong by essentially pointing out how run down and unsuave Joe is).

The only meaner point I found in Best Pet was maybe how overset the ponies got in favoring the underdog, not really bothered with how dejected the falcon was for winning and still getting kicked out.

edited 12th Jun '12 8:56:45 PM by Psi001

Kyler Thatch avatar
#222822 from the corner of your eye
Here's a question: How do you propose Rainbow Dash filter out the contestants that were just being overconfident, or were being pressured to participate?
Can you tell me who you are? Can you tell me where I am?
I've forgotten how to see. I've forgotten if I can.
Meta Four avatar
#222823 from Behind the scenes...
On the issue of Hobbes being real, I recall Watterson stating (in the 10th Anniversary book) that Calvin believes Hobbes is real; everyone else believes that Hobbes is just a stuffed animal; and neither perspective is supposed to be right or wrong. Rather postmodern there.

So that one story arc where Hobbes tied Calvin up—and Calvin couldn't get out without his dad's help—was something of a misstep on Watterson's part, rather than him intentionally providing evidence that Hobbes was really real.
...they feed my nightmares and starve my dreams.
Enlong avatar
#222824 from The Magitek Holyland
@con Why? Why would I like it?

I don't know. Why would you like a show for little girls?

On the gorge race thing; we can talk about the idea of them being pressured into following pack tactics, but we shouldn't forget that some of them did, in fact, drop out. And not a word was spent pressuring them for their choice. The rest of them could clearly see that it was a choice that they could make. Some of them felt ready, some of them didn't, and all who did made it through.

edited 12th Jun '12 8:57:39 PM by Enlong

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storyyeller avatar
#222825 from Appleloosa
I never cared to ever see that. It always looked boring.

It's actually pretty good.
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