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Bagof Magic Food avatar
#9651
The exact quote is "According to Lauren Faust, the show's creator, Luna was possessed by some outside force which made her into Nightmare Moon."
That's not an exact quote of Lauren Faust, that's a quote about a quote! AAAAAGHHHHH!
gingerninja 666 avatar
#9652 from Aboard The Damocles from Aboard The Damocles
[up][up] IS SHE READY?!

edited 10th Jul '11 5:06:28 PM by gingerninja666

"Schneizel! So you ARE the puppet master behind all this!" - Lelouch Lamperouge

Tealove is best pony
gingerninja 666 avatar
#9653 from Aboard The Damocles from Aboard The Damocles
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That made me laugh SO hard grin
"Schneizel! So you ARE the puppet master behind all this!" - Lelouch Lamperouge

Tealove is best pony
Red Savant avatar
#9654 from Eastern US from Eastern US
We'll probably get a more concrete answer in Season 2. That linked page does say she's lined up to appear again, after all. =)
I'm a college student! I don't have time for this!
Anemoi avatar
#9655 from With Bill Nye from With Bill Nye
According to one of the animators, her premere episode is 'epic'
Nothing is cooler than science and ponies
Fallen Legend avatar
#9656 from Mexico City! from Mexico City!
We do know, a part of her did this willingly. Evidenced by the fact that she had to apologize and that she was scared of facing Celestia, not to mention the guilt.

If she had been just brainwashed or possessed Celestia nor she would have cared.

edited 10th Jul '11 5:42:11 PM by FallenLegend

I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen, not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else. C. S. Lewis
Space Jawa avatar
#9657 from Right Here from Right Here
I'd think so, although I can't really see Fluttershy doing anything surgical because I can't imagine her reaction well to blood. Although I suppose it's possible.
The surgical tools could be for really quick procedures, not long drawn out operations

Personally, I don't imagine there's much in the way of long large scale 'cut you open' surgical procedures in Equestria at all, especially when they have magic and such.
Fallen Legend avatar
#9658 from Mexico City! from Mexico City!
I am sure that for Luna there was some Beneath the Mask involved and not just an evil possession.How much would be the real question.

edited 10th Jul '11 5:40:20 PM by FallenLegend

I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen, not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else. C. S. Lewis
badgertaco avatar
#9659 from the year 40,000 from the year 40,000
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Ditto

In other news, BABY GOT FLANK is hilarious
=PONYHAMMER 40K=
Red Savant avatar
#9660 from Eastern US from Eastern US
@Fallen Legend: Keep in mind that that was the first time Luna and Celestia had spoken since Celestia banished Luna to the moon for trying to overthrow her the first time, which presumably didn't have anything to do with whatever caused Nightmare Moon (but could).
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kegisak avatar
#9661
I don't think we can just say that she was completedly possesed, because what end would eternal night serve anyone but Luna? You can see why Luna wanted it, for people to appreciate her night, but what purpose doesit serve anyone else? Well, I suppose that would be an issue to reveal in time.

I think she probably just chose to accept the help of something, and that's what she was apologizing for. It was still her choice, no matter how badly it went against her wishes.
Rich Reeders avatar
#9662 from The high seas! Arrr! from The high seas! Arrr!
Sure would like to know what she did that was so bad that she was banished to the moon FOR-EVERRRRRR, though.
"You're my favourite Princess ever!"
gingerninja 666 avatar
#9663 from Aboard The Damocles from Aboard The Damocles
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Maybe it was an evil entity that assimilates part of it's host personality. Maybe there was nothing to Nightmare Moon except her desire for eternal night

[up] Trying to commit genocide is kinda bad

edited 10th Jul '11 5:51:17 PM by gingerninja666

"Schneizel! So you ARE the puppet master behind all this!" - Lelouch Lamperouge

Tealove is best pony
kegisak avatar
#9664
I think it wouldbe fair to say that Celestia over-reacted - or she couldn't quite control the power of the elements. The reason was that Luna refused to lower the moon - she wanted eternal night. She might have lashed out at Celestia, but that's probably the extent of it.

Does anybody else think seeing the actual thing, as an actual episode, would be amazing to see?
Will Keaton avatar
#9665 from Alberta, Canada from Alberta, Canada
I think it just made her more powerful and a lot more selfish. Neither full possesion, nor something whispering in her ear. It just changed her personality a little. She could have stopped if she wanted to. Thing is, after becoming Nightmare Moon she didn't want to.

edited 10th Jul '11 5:56:31 PM by WillKeaton

Red Savant avatar
#9666 from Eastern US from Eastern US
^^I would love to, actually. It'd be a good way to develop Celestia's character.

^Makes sense to me. It's worth noting that Luna gets shrunk back to a much smaller alicorn once she gets turned back into Luna... maybe Gods Need Prayer Badly...?

Anyway, anyone else think Luna should be up for Well-Intentioned Extremist? I get the feeling she didn't think her plan through very well (that is, if it was Luna and not Nightmare Moon calling the shots even back then; I doubt Nightmare would care very much either way whether there were any ponies left in Equestria), and all she really wanted was the same kind of love and respect that her sister got.

edited 10th Jul '11 5:59:57 PM by RedSavant

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gingerninja 666 avatar
#9667 from Aboard The Damocles from Aboard The Damocles
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Then what did the Elements of Harmony do? Brainwash a Heel Face Turn into her? Oh god wild mass guess Maybe she hasn't repented at all and only gave up because the elements stripped her of the power she needed to dominate Celestia (the armour) wild mass guess

edited 10th Jul '11 6:03:35 PM by gingerninja666

"Schneizel! So you ARE the puppet master behind all this!" - Lelouch Lamperouge

Tealove is best pony
the Librarian avatar
#9668 from his own little world from his own little world
I wonder if the duel between them both would be akin to Dumbledore vs Grindelwald or The Last Great Time War...

Either way it'd be awesome to see, yes XD
Tick Tock, goes the clock/ He cradled and he rocked her/ Tick Tock, goes the clock/Till River kills the Doctor.
Bagof Magic Food avatar
#9669
Does anybody else think seeing the actual thing, as an actual episode, would be amazing to see?
I would prefer little flashbacks about their lives leading up to the event, and leave us to put the pieces together about what happened in our minds.

Oh you know what would be great? If they told the stories of Celestia's early years in the styles of each of the other My Little Pony animated series.
S 3 avatar
#9670 from Neo Arcadia from Neo Arcadia
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Why Do I have the deep fear that that would make the series more dark and violent.... Yet for no good reason?!
In Neo Arcadia, there are no politics. Just Law, Order, and judgement.

And violence - LOTS OF F***ING VIOLENCE! YAY, VIOLENCE!!!
Rich Reeders avatar
#9671 from The high seas! Arrr! from The high seas! Arrr!
It's worth noting that Luna gets shrunk back to a much smaller alicorn once she gets turned back into Luna

The standing theory for that is that Luna became Nightmare Moon, she wasn't Luna anymore and stopped aging as her.
"You're my favourite Princess ever!"
Bagof Magic Food avatar
#9672
Why Do I have the deep fear that that would make the series more dark and violent.... Yet for no good reason?!
Is it really that dark to say that not all apologies are sincere? That's actually how I explain the quick turn-arounds some of the villains go through at the ends of the G1 cartoons, that it wasn't a change of heart so much as they were just tired of fighting and considered it too risky to continue the battle, so they started buttering up the ponies as it's easy to get back on their good side.
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#9673 from A land of potatoes from A land of potatoes
There should be an evil Celestia, too. Nightmare Sun?
Bagof Magic Food avatar
#9674
Daydream Sun!
Rich Reeders avatar
#9675 from The high seas! Arrr! from The high seas! Arrr!
Holyfuckstopsettingmeonfire Sun
"You're my favourite Princess ever!"