Okay, let's agree on something here, because I guess you people in this thread are the people most likely to be writing those episode recap pages.

Them actually doing exactly what they said they would be doing in Lesson Zero, with people who aren't Twilight sending letters to Princess Celestia, is not a Continuity Nod. Saying they're going to do a thing in future episodes in one episode and then actually doing it in those future episodes is just plain, simple, normal continuity.

Gilda dead? wow that is too extreme

@ Moe Dantes:

Stimpy, I ninjaed you to SUCH a degree...

edited 14th Nov '11 8:44:36 AM by RichReeders

Yeah, I'm not a big fan of Gilda either, but I hardly want to see her get killed or anything.

Wait, who wants Gilda dead? That's a bit much.

Btw, think we'll see any other Griffons in the show...or a Hippogriff?

Edit: Some Hippogriff ideas:

A 1st gen. Hippogriff is basicially a Griffon with the lion parts replaced with pony parts. They have cutie marks.

A hippogriff born to a hippogriff/pony couple can vary wildly in appearance. They could be a big pony with clawed forelimbs and a feathered mane, or just a large pony, or more like a regular hippogriff.

edited 14th Nov '11 8:59:58 AM by ApplelightLimited

Yeah, wanting Gilda to die is pretty terrible. On the subject of whether she can be redemmed or not I fall into the category of can't be redeemed. To me she just seems to stubborn and prideful to be able to learn her lesson.

Yeah I would like to see more Griffons to, if only so the "Griffons=Klingons" fanon can be jossed.

None of the minor antagonists are bad enough to deserve death or any equivalent fate. Maybe a little roughed up (I think Gilda would probably have to pick a fight with something she can't handle or just blow off to really learn her lesson. Trixie would probably need to have her "provoke and then assault" routine turned against her. Blueblood could maybe have a bigger jerk act more self centered around him or maybe have his selfishness screw up something big that makes him rethink things), but not death.

I personally see Griffons as the dwarfs of this setting, living in big fortified cities high up in the mountains.

Gilda probably won't change her ways, but I think they could get to a stage were she's at least on speaking terms with the mane 6.

Maybe the nobility of Equestria duel? Perhaps Blueblood insults an officer of the army (or navy) who challenges him to a duel...and he's goning to get his ass handed to him?

edited 14th Nov '11 9:22:57 AM by ApplelightLimited

Spank her! SPANK THE GRIFFON!!!

I don't think it's not so much that Gilda can't take a prank but that she was pranked constantly at a party for her. I'd like to see you keep your cool when one person is specifically pranking you over and over and nobody sees anything wrong with it.

All the stuff she did before was pretty bad though.

edited 14th Nov '11 9:28:04 AM by Badwolfwho

^^That just sounds like a euphemism.

^It seems to be part that she can't take her own medicine and part that she believes that Pinkie set up all the pranks strictly to target her - because that's how she would do it. She doesn't get that Pinkie legitimately wants to cheer her up, so she must be getting mocked - that's how her mind works.

To be fair she was right. Every prank was set up specifically for her, except it was Rainbow who set them up not Pinkie. Unless Rainbow was covering for Pinkie. But yeah she couldn't handle her own medicine. On the other hand, when did Gilda prank other than that Granny Smith one?

I know he's sort of become my personal pet baddy at this point, but if you think how the fandom treats Gilda is bad, you should see how people react to Blueblood. I swear, at least the people who like Gilda get some degree of representation. I've seen maybe two or three fics aside from mine that don't play him as the villain. Okay, granted, he was antagonistic, but he's nowhere near as reprehensible as those fics that do play him as the villain make him out to be.

I don't think I've read any where Blueblood was a villain. There was that Legion of Gloom one but I stopped reading that when the authour self inserted themselves into it. I've read a few where he was a jerk, a few where he was a heroic jerk and quite a few where he is either secretly a good guy or improves himself.

I've read plenty of comments on youtube videos and the like and they really hate him.

Actually, no. The pranks were all set up for everyone at the party. It was coincidence, and Gilda's desire to be the 'star of the show' that made them all be set upon Gilda.

I've liked Blueblood ever since reading The Best Night Ever. Not gonna stop me from using him as a minor villian in my own fic though.

• Hoofbuzzer: Gilda was the only person that Pinkie shook hooves/claws with.
• Vanilla Drops: Gilda went straight for those, is it unreasonable that Rainbow Dash would know what Gilda's favourite snack is?
• Cup with a hole in it: Gilda was specifically directed to those drinks by Rainbow Dash. Nobody else was.
• Snake Present: It was Gilda's party who else would the presents be for?

Edit: Gilda's only crime at the party before exploding was that she shook hooves/claws when offered to, ate some food and opened presents that were for her.

edited 14th Nov '11 9:58:21 AM by Badwolfwho

The problem with Blueblood is that he has very little personality (even compared to other minor characters) outside of being a jerk. In a sense he seems to exist only to crush Rarity's dream at the Gala, and his personality (or lack therof) is designed specifically around that fact.

edited 14th Nov '11 9:57:19 AM by Mio

I don't like those antagonist white washing fics. Maybe if those were about something else and show jerk redemption was only result of plot and character development not purpose of fic or it's arc.

Yeah... it's the same issue as DT and SS. They just don't have the focus that Gilda and Trixie got.

Still, the fervous hatred I've seen for them just gets unnerving at times.

Ahem.

edited 14th Nov '11 9:59:43 AM by kegisak

I've only read one story where Blueblood was a villain and he was really just being a general douchebag, it was the Vinyl Scratch tapes. I mean really, the demonizing/leather pantsing of any of these characters is ridiculous, you'd think people would find away to be reasonable or something. Blueblood's a jerk, not a monster. Gilda is selfish and bossy and controlling, but hardly the worst the show has to offer and Trixie was a minor annoyance, sh's a frikkin' flea.

Don't tell me your intention was not Blueblood redemtion.

Horever that premise don't sound that anoying like most of those pro jerks fics. This even sound interesting.

edited 14th Nov '11 10:08:12 AM by DeathCloud

I would like to take a moment to point out that we are discussing fan-fiction here. Even more so than most other forms of literature, they're subject to the "sounds stupid until you read it" rule.

I'm with Mio on this one; Blueblood is more of a plot device than anything else; even Gilda sort of had some inner conflict about her bitchiness (she really did seem to want to be Rainbow Dash's friend), but Blueblood pretty one-dimensional. I still wouldn't want to see him killed or anything (he's a jerk, not a monster), but I can see why people tend to react that way. He's basically designed to be disliked.

It'd have been even cooler if he had been Mr. Right... but just wasn't interested in Rarity at all, and called her out on her turning him into a Lust Object like so many other fangirls... and also told her she was Trying Too Hard to be proper.

Anyone ever written an AU fic in that sense? Don't force your sense of fun on others, Pinkie, don't think wild, captive animals will automatically like you when they've never met you before, Fluttershy, don't expect the Princess to spend too much time with you personally at an official event, Twilight, don't expect a Prince to just want to marry you off-the-bat, Rarity, and don't expect him to be automatically nice, don't expect to make lots of money out of opening an unauthorized shop in the middle of an official event where people probably aren't even carrying any money on them, and don't expect those people are going to pay such ludicrous prices that you'll be able to make cutting-edge surgery on your grandma, AJ, and don't expect the Wonderbolts to spend all their attention on you RD.

REALLY, they ALL had in common that they had a SELF CENTERED perspective of the party. I think being the main characters of their own stories has them a little spoiled when it comes to that.