#367351 Blissey 1 Wed, 15th May '13 6:27:28 AM from a random Pokècenter

IT has returned!

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#367352 Death Cloud Wed, 15th May '13 6:29:38 AM from Horsehead Nebula

Check those for more info.

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Science_officer

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Engineer

Because he know I'm going to go out in this plane and I'm going to remove one of His creations from His universe.

#367353 Applelight Limited Wed, 15th May '13 6:33:49 AM from Manehattan to Canterlot

Thanks Death. This is a great help. It means that I can have a 'smart guy' to handle everything from healing to weather problems to magic abnormalities, and then the engineer who just tends to the ship and its weapon systems.

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#367354 Blissey 1 Wed, 15th May '13 6:38:01 AM from a random Pokècenter

S 1 E 6-JPN Subs :D

Oh So Amazing Trixie doesn't have the same ring to it as Great and Powerful Trixie...

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#367355 Red Savant Wed, 15th May '13 6:48:47 AM from Japan

Yeah, it's not quite as punchy... what she's literally saying is 'the very wonderful Trixie', though, which is even less so.

I'm 8ad, and that's good. I will never 8e good, and that's not 8ad. 8ecause there's no one I'd rather 8e... than me.

#367356 Ace Of Scarabs Wed, 15th May '13 6:50:39 AM from Singapore

Well it looks like something got lost in the translation there ._.

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#367357 storyyeller Wed, 15th May '13 6:51:08 AM from Appleloosa

Post of the Day #377

Seeing how the three tribes came to be (and where the crystal ponies fall in all that) would be interesting, but i think they should avoid a full creation myth.

Also on the Winter Wrap Up thing, the way I heard Twilight phrased sounded like she was say that Ponyville had been doing it the Earth Pony way for hundreds of years, not that Earth Ponies had been doing it for hundreds of years and that is how Ponyville does it.

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#367358 Applelight Limited Wed, 15th May '13 6:51:54 AM from Manehattan to Canterlot

Oh hey, are supporting protagonists ever heard of in shonen series.

edited 15th May '13 6:52:10 AM by ApplelightLimited

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#367359 Red Savant Wed, 15th May '13 6:53:41 AM from Japan

How do you mean? I can think of a few in One Piece, certainly (even without classing the other eight Straw Hats as 'supporting', which they technically are.)

edited 15th May '13 6:54:11 AM by RedSavant

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#367360 Ace Of Scarabs Wed, 15th May '13 6:57:08 AM from Singapore

Doxy: human!Spitfire

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#367361 Applelight Limited Wed, 15th May '13 6:58:41 AM from Manehattan to Canterlot

What I mean is, I'm starting to make my lead a general all round explorer, and I'm wondering if I should use a different pony as the Captain of the ship, which makes the lead not the one in overall charge. Just...musing. I don't really know what I mean.

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#367362 Sereg Wed, 15th May '13 6:59:05 AM from South Africa

Oh hey, are supporting protagonists ever heard of in shonen series.

Eeyup. You can check the page to see them. Medaka Box, for example, has Zenkichi as the Supporting Protagonist and Medaka as The Hero. Of course, Medaka Box is largely a parody, and plays shonen tropes rather oddly.

EDIT:

How do you mean? I can think of a few in One Piece, certainly (even without classing the other eight Straw Hats as 'supporting', which they technically are.)

Not what Supporting Protagonist means. It means the protagonist and The Hero aren't the same person.

edited 15th May '13 7:01:48 AM by Sereg

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#367363 d Roy Wed, 15th May '13 7:04:13 AM from Buffalo, New York

@Applelight - Of course there are Supporting Protagonist in shonen action works. They tend to not to live very long, though.

For a very excellent example of Supporting Protagonist, there is Roy Mustang from Fullmetal Alchemist. He is basically Aragorn, except he isn't a royalty and instead a Person of Mass Destruction.

Oh, and I would like to take this opportunity to recommend FMA manga in general. It's totally not because I am a self-proclaimed #1 fan of Hiromu Arakawa. Totally not.

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#367364 storyyeller Wed, 15th May '13 7:05:34 AM from Appleloosa

static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/liarjacksmall_2091.png

Here's the url if you need it

edited 15th May '13 7:05:55 AM by storyyeller

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#367365 Sereg Wed, 15th May '13 7:07:17 AM from South Africa

For a very excellent example of Supporting Protagonist, there is Roy Mustang from Fullmetal Alchemist. He is basically Aragorn, except he isn't a royalty and instead a Person of Mass Destruction.

Roy Mustang isn't The Protagonist, so he doesn't count.

Look at the page, people! It is the main character. Not one of the main characters. The main character. Who is also not The Hero.

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#367366 d Roy Wed, 15th May '13 7:08:29 AM from Buffalo, New York

Meh, semantics.

edited 15th May '13 7:09:21 AM by dRoy

#367367 Applelight Limited Wed, 15th May '13 7:15:01 AM from Manehattan to Canterlot

What I mean is, I'm starting to make my lead a general all round explorer, and I'm wondering if I should use a different pony as the Captain of the ship, which makes the lead not the one in overall charge.

Does that even make sense?

EDIT: Probably not.

Sorry I'll take all this to the fanfic thread.

edited 15th May '13 7:15:42 AM by ApplelightLimited

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#367368 Sereg Wed, 15th May '13 7:17:15 AM from South Africa

Meh, semantics.

Semantics are important. Especially when they lead to completely different answers. Under your deffinition, the answer goes from "Yes, there are a couple" to "One that doesn't have any would be really odd" and results in being completely unhelpful to Applelight.

@Applelight: Yes, that would both be a Supporting Protagonist and a perfectly valid writing decision.

edited 15th May '13 7:19:15 AM by Sereg

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#367369 d Roy Wed, 15th May '13 7:18:59 AM from Buffalo, New York

I am enlightened, Dr. Professor Genius.

#367370 Sereg Wed, 15th May '13 7:22:00 AM from South Africa

Ah, sarcasm. Yeah, that's really helping Applelight.

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#367371 Applelight Limited Wed, 15th May '13 7:24:39 AM from Manehattan to Canterlot

So, I could have the lead as a guy who just wants to see the world and explore, not necessarily lead the crew. So the captain of this ship is the one who wants to be the master (lead in a shonen goal right?) and the lead is just coming along for the ride. That make sense?

EDIT:

Woah! Woah woah woah! Please don't fight!

edited 15th May '13 7:25:11 AM by ApplelightLimited

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#367372 Japanese Teeth Wed, 15th May '13 7:26:28 AM from Meinong's jungle

@Applelight: It's basically when the story follows a character who isn't The Hero. It's possible, but doing that might complicate things.

Re: Human Spitfire:

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#367373 Ace Of Scarabs Wed, 15th May '13 7:27:07 AM from Singapore

I want to set this as wallpaper somewhere

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#367374 Applelight Limited Wed, 15th May '13 7:27:51 AM from Manehattan to Canterlot

What human spitfi...oh.

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#367375 d Roy Wed, 15th May '13 7:31:09 AM from Buffalo, New York

@Applelight - Master of...what? I usually dislike To Be a Master trope because how vague it tends to be. In addition, let's say if the captain does become a "master." Then what? You need to consider that, unless having him realize that his motivation has no solid direction is part of his Character Development.

@Human!Spitfire - I tend to go through quiet rage whenever I see a character wearing tight bodysuit (or whatever it is) that is zipped down to expose cleavage. Those tend to override my Rule of Sexy application core.