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#278026 Perpetual Lurker Sun, 2nd Sep '12 9:55:12 AM

No, but the town could simply be about a century old, not multiple centuries. She's very old, but I don't think that she's impossibly old.

edited 2nd Sep '12 9:56:06 AM by PerpetualLurker

#278027 Badwolfwho Sun, 2nd Sep '12 9:55:24 AM from Stardust Road

Then it's a relatively recent town. Simple.

edited 2nd Sep '12 9:55:34 AM by Badwolfwho

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#278028 condottiera Sun, 2nd Sep '12 9:56:18 AM from Chicago

But how can a new town have a hundreds year old tradition?

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#278029 Perpetual Lurker Sun, 2nd Sep '12 9:57:30 AM

@con Twilight said that it was an Earth Pony tradition. Christmas tradition is centuries older than the USA, but it's still a national holiday.

#278030 Badwolfwho Sun, 2nd Sep '12 9:58:22 AM from Stardust Road

Are you saying that before Ponyville existed it was winter forever? And that Ponyville wraps up winter everywhere (which we know isn't true because it's always the slowest)?

edited 2nd Sep '12 9:59:25 AM by Badwolfwho

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#278031 condottiera Sun, 2nd Sep '12 9:59:22 AM from Chicago

I'm not sure if it is technically a national holiday, actually. There are lots of people who don't celebrate it.

Plus, I'm pretty sure no one gets Casmir Pulaski Day off except in Illinois.

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#278032 Mio Sun, 2nd Sep '12 10:01:21 AM

You know there is a very simple explanation for all of this. It's a retcon.

That really depends on whether Granny Smith is really several hundred years old or not.

edited 2nd Sep '12 10:03:56 AM by Mio

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#278033 Perpetual Lurker Sun, 2nd Sep '12 10:02:19 AM

@Mio Except that nothing was contradicted. There's nothing that needed a retcon.

edited 2nd Sep '12 10:02:30 AM by PerpetualLurker

#278034 condottiera Sun, 2nd Sep '12 10:02:27 AM from Chicago

I will have continuity, even if I have to stretch my brain to the ends of the earth to get it.

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#278035 Perpetual Lurker Sun, 2nd Sep '12 10:03:49 AM

@con You don't need to stretch anything. Traditions can be older than the places where they're practiced. It's quite common.

#278036 Japanese Teeth Sun, 2nd Sep '12 10:04:47 AM from Meinong's jungle

Thread Hop.

Yeah, I'm in the camp that Ponyville is relatively recent, Granny is old but not ancient, and the Winter Wrap Up tradition predates the founding of Ponyville. Granny's family were settlers and probably brought the tradition with them when they founded the town.

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#278037 condottiera Sun, 2nd Sep '12 10:06:00 AM from Chicago

But I feel that Twi implied that it was a Ponyville tradition, not an Earth Pony one. It's not much of a "tradition" for them when there's nopony with magic around, cause they gotta do it that way anyway.

Yeah, cause she sold her soul to the Devil.

edited 2nd Sep '12 10:06:44 AM by condottiera

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#278038 storyyeller Sun, 2nd Sep '12 10:06:32 AM from Appleloosa

I think that's the most logical explanation.

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#278039 Badwolfwho Sun, 2nd Sep '12 10:08:36 AM from Stardust Road

"Help the Earth Pony way". Not Ponyville way. The Earth Pony way.

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#278040 Japanese Teeth Sun, 2nd Sep '12 10:11:22 AM from Meinong's jungle

Yeah, from what I remember Twi always refers to it as "earth pony" tradition rather than "Ponyville" tradition, which is really kinda odd if it's specific to that town.

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#278041 condottiera Sun, 2nd Sep '12 10:11:43 AM from Chicago

Whatever. I can see our headcanons differ and we are not going to change anyone's mind today.

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#278042 Applelight Limited Sun, 2nd Sep '12 10:13:10 AM from Manehattan to Canterlot

Y'know what I really want? The legends of how ponies came to be. Basically, where did the tribes come from.

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#278043 condottiera Sun, 2nd Sep '12 10:13:45 AM from Chicago

I love Creation Myth s. They are awesome.

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#278044 Purple Dalek Sun, 2nd Sep '12 10:14:28 AM from the Moon

They evolved.

No, they were created by a god.

No, they evolved.

No, they were created by a god.

edited 2nd Sep '12 10:18:26 AM by PurpleDalek

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#278045 Japanese Teeth Sun, 2nd Sep '12 10:17:47 AM from Meinong's jungle

Theistic Evolution!

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#278046 condottiera Sun, 2nd Sep '12 10:18:18 AM from Chicago

That is why it is called a "myth."

However, the word "myth, " despite its stigma, does not lesson the significance of the truths it contains.

Just because it never happened doesn't mean it isn't true.

edited 2nd Sep '12 10:19:00 AM by condottiera

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#278047 Mio Sun, 2nd Sep '12 10:21:19 AM

Seeing how the three tribes came to be (and where the crystal ponies fall in all that) would be interesting, but i think they should avoid a full creation myth.

Also on the Winter Wrap Up thing, the way I heard Twilight phrased sounded like she was say that Ponyville had been doing it the Earth Pony way for hundreds of years, not that Earth Ponies had been doing it for hundreds of years and that is how Ponyville does it.

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#278048 storyyeller Sun, 2nd Sep '12 10:21:39 AM from Appleloosa

It happened but then Discord retroactively changed history.

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#278049 Blissey 1 Sun, 2nd Sep '12 10:24:10 AM from a random Pokècenter

Don't we have a trope for particular plot elements in fanfiction that are crazy common for a specific fandom? Like "Twi miscasts a spell" being the opening for a ton of fics for MLP.

edited 2nd Sep '12 10:24:21 AM by Blissey1

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#278050 condottiera Sun, 2nd Sep '12 10:24:39 AM from Chicago

Discord punched the universe SO HARD that Jason Todd came back to life.

Fandom Specific Plot.

Also, take a drink.

edited 2nd Sep '12 10:25:10 AM by condottiera

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