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#251101 Purple Dalek Mon, 16th Jul '12 1:04:20 PM from the Moon

@Blue Every character is either a Deadpan Snarker or a Badass or someone who arbitrarily flips back and forth between the two.

Anyway, Rainbow Dash would be the sort of villain who always tries to prove she is better than the hero.

edited 16th Jul '12 1:05:24 PM by PurpleDalek

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#251102 Mr AHR Mon, 16th Jul '12 1:05:42 PM from ಠ_ಠ

Meh. That's a script writing. Like saying One Piece characters are all "large hams" or "evil bastards" when it's really just how the world is built. World of Ham. Also, that's not true. Anya, Andrew, Cordelia and Harmony are none of those. And they're my favorite characters of the Buffyverse. They're really aren't that many snarky folks in the Buffyverse. There are funny moments from people, but I wouldn't call them automatically snarky because they're given a funny line.

edited 16th Jul '12 1:07:58 PM by MrAHR

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#251103 Bluespade Mon, 16th Jul '12 1:08:40 PM from Texas

@Dalek: Ah, okay, so it was something incredibly vague. Being snarky does not make them all the same sort of characters by any means. Same with being badass. In an action oriented show it's pretty much a given that all, or at least most, of the characters are going to kick ass at some point.

You could say the exact same thing about MLP:FIM. Every one of the Mane 6 has performed feats of badassery, and all of them have had their snarky moments.

Anyway, I'm not annoyed or offended that you don't like Whedon, I just could not comprehend what you were trying to say there. I wouldn't even consider myself a fan of his, really, though I do like some of his works.

edited 16th Jul '12 1:09:55 PM by Bluespade

#251104 Mr AHR Mon, 16th Jul '12 1:11:27 PM from ಠ_ಠ

I consider Whedon an abusive boyfriend. He tells you everything will be different, makes you love him again, AND THEN BREAKS YOUR HEART AND MAKES YOU SOB AT HOW SHITTY THE RESOLUTION WAS ;A;

So yeah, I'm a fan of Whedon. Which means I'm obligated to hate the bastard for when he decides to stop having fun and do stupid shit.

You cannot like a show. Plenty of folks do. It just seems odd to hate it for a reason like that, when there are SO many better reasons.

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#251105 Purple Dalek Mon, 16th Jul '12 1:13:45 PM from the Moon

What annoys me is that there's no variety. You could give 90% of the dialogue to another character and it wouldn't matter because they're all snarky, interchangeable badasses.

In a good show (like MLPFIM) you can't do this. For example, you couldn't give a Rarity line to Applejack.

The Eleventh Doctor is cool.

#251106 crowlover Mon, 16th Jul '12 1:14:38 PM from Name & Address Withheld

You cannot like a show. Plenty of folks do.

You might want to put a space in "cannot."

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#251107 Mr AHR Mon, 16th Jul '12 1:14:49 PM from ಠ_ಠ

...care to give an example instead of speaking in general terms? For example, the characters I mentioned above, there is no WAY you could give ANYONE Andrew's dialogue and have it be ANYONE but Andrew.

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#251108 Bluespade Mon, 16th Jul '12 1:15:00 PM from Texas

Yeah, cause you could totally switch all of Jayne and Simon's lines around and no one would be the wiser.

I was trying to figure out what that meant.

edited 16th Jul '12 1:15:30 PM by Bluespade

#251109 Mousa The 14 Mon, 16th Jul '12 1:15:04 PM from Northern Virginia

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Sorry, what was that? I heard the name Cordelia and I had to go break something, continue.

I have no illusions about Joss Whedon, he's just another guy that just happens to be geek famous for some reason. Sure Buffy was cool but I really don't see why he's such a big deal.

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#251110 Mr AHR Mon, 16th Jul '12 1:15:48 PM from ಠ_ಠ

I liked Cordelia. She was awesome. She was a bully who wasn't just written to be a bully, and it was awesome. No " wah wah I'm getting out my repressed bully issues" which I can't stand with most generic bullies.

edited 16th Jul '12 1:16:37 PM by MrAHR

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#251111 marston Mon, 16th Jul '12 1:17:15 PM from America

So, to anyone familer with Firefly, what do you think of this article?

http://jarredspekter.deviantart.com/art/Analyzing-Firefly-289291556

edited 16th Jul '12 1:18:34 PM by marston

#251112 kegisak Mon, 16th Jul '12 1:17:17 PM

EDIT: Pretty thoroughly ninja'd right there.

edited 16th Jul '12 1:17:56 PM by kegisak

#251113 Bluespade Mon, 16th Jul '12 1:20:35 PM from Texas

@Marston:I think that it's very long and don't feel like reading it, lol. But looking at his/her bullet points of what's wrong with the show I have to disagree. They seem like extremely minor nitpicks that are mostly untrue anyhow.

Granted, there were some flaws to Firefly, mostly that a lot of the episode to episode plots were very weak and there was no (as yet, it was being slowly hinted at) overarching story to hold interest. But the flaws given in the article I don't agree with.

#251114 Mr AHR Mon, 16th Jul '12 1:21:33 PM from ಠ_ಠ

I never saw Firefly. I refuse to. Mostly because I'm still healing from what happened in Buffy and Angel ;_;

In a year or two, I'll be ready for it.

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#251115 Purple Dalek Mon, 16th Jul '12 1:22:43 PM from the Moon

: In one of the first episodes the pilot, Wash, is musing about River Tam having revealed herself to essentially be a telepath. "I dunno. Telepathy. Kind of sounds like science fiction to me." He says. "Dear, we live in a space ship." His wife replies. "Oh yeah." He responds, raising an eyebrow. This just annoys me and is the primary reason I dislike this show. Science fiction changes with each new generation and I would have hoped a fan of the genre would know this. This is like nowadays someone saying 'I dunno. Sounds like science fiction' and being rebutted by someone saying 'But we have toasters'. Yes, in earlier centuries that might have seemed like sci-fi and there is a point in there somewhere, but the real reason this statement was made is because being on a space ship will be associated with science fiction by the VIEWER. Not by the characters but by the people watching the show.

This. So much this.

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#251116 Mr AHR Mon, 16th Jul '12 1:23:21 PM from ಠ_ಠ

That comes down to style preferences. Not everyone is gonna like Whedon's sense of humor, and that's ok.

That being said, haven't seen the scene, don't know the context, not gonna judge. Maybe it's a weak line. He has those. Whedon has had some really stupid episodes. But haven't seen the show, don't know. Just going to make arguments based on Buffy and Angel. AND PAIN.

edited 16th Jul '12 1:25:55 PM by MrAHR

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#251117 kegisak Mon, 16th Jul '12 1:23:42 PM

He does have SOME points, but to me they on the whole smack more of personal taste than any real reason to call it objectively bad in any way. Of course he does still recognize the show is good, so there's that much. I suppose he realizes his issues come down largely to taste.

#251118 Bluespade Mon, 16th Jul '12 1:26:45 PM from Texas

I never saw Firefly. I refuse to. Mostly because I'm still healing from what happened in Buffy and Angel ;_;

Nobody dies in Firefly.

In Serenity, though...

It did. That doesn't really change it though.

edited 16th Jul '12 1:30:59 PM by Bluespade

#251119 Mr AHR Mon, 16th Jul '12 1:27:48 PM from ಠ_ಠ

Blue: I know. It's mostly, well, I REALLY loved certain characters. The idea of ONLY having them for a handful of episodes is what kills me. That it was cancelled.

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#251120 Pannic Mon, 16th Jul '12 1:30:00 PM

Wait, I thought the "sounds like science fiction" conversation ended with "So?" not "Oh yeah."

#251121 ATC Mon, 16th Jul '12 1:30:35 PM from Sleeping

Firefly, methinks, was mostly loved because nobody had to see it continue; so everybody imagined that if it had continued, it would have been exactly the kind of show that they like. Those who were attracted by the humor and style/atmosphere imagine that those elements would have developed; those who were more focused on the characters and story imagine that those elements would have developed, and everybody imagined that the writing would maintain its excellent quality.

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#251122 Super Gex Mon, 16th Jul '12 1:30:35 PM from Your Face

I'm not going to watch any Whedon shows, and you can't make me.

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#251123 Purple Dalek Mon, 16th Jul '12 1:31:19 PM from the Moon

Firefly could always go the Doctor Who route and record a shit tonne of audio dramas after they get cancelled.

The Eleventh Doctor is cool.

#251124 Mr AHR Mon, 16th Jul '12 1:31:21 PM from ಠ_ಠ

Pannic is correct.

" Wash: [about River] Psychic, though? That sounds like something out of science-fiction.

Zoë: We live in a spaceship, dear.

Wash: So? "

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#251125 Bluespade Mon, 16th Jul '12 1:31:26 PM from Texas

@Gex:Alton Brown. Who apparently doesn't have a page here.

edited 16th Jul '12 1:31:51 PM by Bluespade