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#219151 Seraphem Sat, 9th Jun '12 7:38:08 PM from Delamare

Though that's simply due to the culture it's made in, American audiences are so used to Viewers Are Morons that most of them NEED the explanation.

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#219152 storyyeller Sat, 9th Jun '12 7:38:14 PM from Appleloosa

Hey that reminds me - I was really surprised when I watched parts of the Matt Engarde case. The summary I read made it sound like theres suddenly a big choice and you have to be smart enough to pick the right option to get the good ending. But when I actually looked at some of the videos, it looks like the entire second day of the trial is dedicated to dropping as many hints as possible about what to do.

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#219153 Moe Dantes Sat, 9th Jun '12 7:38:25 PM from the Land of Classics

Well, Death Note uses a lot of HEAVILY nuanced and complex plotting on the parts of damn near everyone involved. If they didn't exposit, you'd be lost.

As I said previously, when anime exposits, it's usually an absolute necessity.

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#219154 Psi 001 Sat, 9th Jun '12 7:38:38 PM

@Lurker: Well to be fair, the west also gets a lot of dumbed down kids animes which are basically toy advertisements, eg. near anything 4Kids got their paws on, so saying we only get a taste of the good stuff isn't quite true.

Anime does a lot of 'characters' thoughts speaking' moments compared to Western Animation, which are mostly just a voice explaining what's going on, I'll give it that.

edited 9th Jun '12 7:40:39 PM by Psi001

#219155 storyyeller Sat, 9th Jun '12 7:39:56 PM from Appleloosa

Anyway, I haven't noticed a systematic difference. But it's something that's hard to objectively measure anyway.

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#219156 Perpetual Lurker Sat, 9th Jun '12 7:41:43 PM

@Psi What the localization and licensing companies do to butcher what they acquire has nothing to do with the fact that the shows picked up in America are almost always popular in Japan. Usually, things don't get popular without having enough quality in them to acquire the necessary fanbase.

#219157 storyyeller Sat, 9th Jun '12 7:43:03 PM from Appleloosa

Though there are always exceptions

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#219158 Ace Of Scarabs Sat, 9th Jun '12 7:43:31 PM from Singapore

I'm curious what a pony anime might be like if we got an S-tier anime studio and writer to work on it.

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#219159 Turtlebutter Sat, 9th Jun '12 7:43:42 PM from Baltimare

I noticed when I first got into Anime.. that Anime tended to have way more serious storylines than WA. But this was a good 10-15 years ago and WA has made leaps and bounds in its ability to tell a serious story in a way that is still appropriate for the target audience.

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#219160 Perpetual Lurker Sat, 9th Jun '12 7:44:07 PM

@Story I wasn't aware that that was popular outside of Bile Fascination. I have never met anyone with a positive opinion of Jersey Shore. Ever.

edited 9th Jun '12 7:44:20 PM by PerpetualLurker

#219161 Psi 001 Sat, 9th Jun '12 7:44:12 PM

Sonic X wasn't popular at all in Japan, yet gained a second season largely due to American audiences (which was ironically butchered due to having so many unsuitable plot points and scenes for the US localization). That show admitedly was of mixed quality at best, and many a fan will admit that.

edited 9th Jun '12 7:45:21 PM by Psi001

#219162 gingerninja 666 Sat, 9th Jun '12 7:45:55 PM from Aboard The Damocles

Yeah, I think my problem is just that a lot of the anime I watch tend to involve heavy scheming that NEEDS to be explained.

I dislike it when the exposition leaks into fight scenes though (one of the reasons I stopped reading Shonen)

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#219163 Perpetual Lurker Sat, 9th Jun '12 7:46:10 PM

@Psi That's the popularity of Sonic, though, whose name alone has been able to sell even really crappy games in America. And in any case, of course there are going to be exceptions. It's just a general trend.

edited 9th Jun '12 7:46:38 PM by PerpetualLurker

#219164 Ace Of Scarabs Sat, 9th Jun '12 7:46:59 PM from Singapore

The anime industry was infinitely more fast-growing than the WA one, so they have a lot of cool shows due to the sheer volume of content.

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#219165 Psi 001 Sat, 9th Jun '12 7:47:16 PM

Sonic as a whole isn't actually that popular in Japan.

@ginger: It tends to be of mixed variety for me, since I find a lot of anime action scenes without exposition or emotional drama are rather generic without someone discussing over it, especially since so many of them recycle power up and attack animations over and over.

edited 9th Jun '12 7:50:52 PM by Psi001

#219166 storyyeller Sat, 9th Jun '12 7:47:21 PM from Appleloosa

I wasn't aware that that was popular outside of Bile Fascination. I have never met anyone with a positive opinion of Jersey Shore. Ever.

Exactly. I am convinced that its entire audience watches it 'ironically'.

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#219167 Mio Sat, 9th Jun '12 7:47:22 PM

@Ace: A pony anime actually may not be that different depending on who they decide to market to.

Speaking of anime I finished Code Geass R2, it was pretty good, in fact i think I enjoyed it more then the first season. Not sure why it was reviled so much.

edited 9th Jun '12 7:47:57 PM by Mio

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#219168 gingerninja 666 Sat, 9th Jun '12 7:47:47 PM from Aboard The Damocles

@Mio and Schneizel?

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#219169 Turtlebutter Sat, 9th Jun '12 7:48:05 PM from Baltimare

I think the first Dark and Edgy WA I ever saw was Disney's Gargoyles

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#219170 gingerninja 666 Sat, 9th Jun '12 7:48:08 PM from Aboard The Damocles

Jersey Shore?

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#219171 crowlover Sat, 9th Jun '12 7:49:26 PM from Name & Address Withheld

@ginger Akiyama and Nao are behind in money for a bit, but both manage to win by quite a bit.

edited 9th Jun '12 7:50:05 PM by crowlover

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#219172 Mio Sat, 9th Jun '12 7:49:29 PM

@Ginger: He certainly made for a better opponent for Lelouch then Charles did. Though I thought they way he was defeated was kind of lame.

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#219173 storyyeller Sat, 9th Jun '12 7:50:49 PM from Appleloosa

He was defeated by Lelouch sneaking up on him while he was watching videos, right?

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#219174 gingerninja 666 Sat, 9th Jun '12 7:51:04 PM from Aboard The Damocles

@crow meaning?

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#219175 Seraphem Sat, 9th Jun '12 7:51:38 PM from Delamare

Don't ask Ginger, don't ask.

I tihkn a lot of our age groups first real serious, dark, and just plain GOOD WA show was Batman: The Animated Series, which yes led to Gargoyles.

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