I'd make her tell me where the portal to Equestria she came from is so I can get over there.....to-to retunr her to her family of course.

Yes, it is. And any adult who would do such a thing to a helpless child would get a severe beating!

I'd do what I'd do in Fallout 3 when I got there.

Kill everything that wasn't useful to me and then kill the useful ones when they stop being useful anymore.

Is Pipsqueak okay now?

I admit he was kind of cute while smashed

There wouldn't happen to be anyone familiar with Open JDK here would there?

Pedofoal? Did I walk into something weird?

"Eric, are you training that pony to please you?"

That quote was funny before FIM, now it's hard to not burst into hysterical laughter.

On the topic of anime, I still fail to see the difference between anime and western animation at its core. As a medium, cartoons are cartoons. Anime is usually defined by its art style and storytelling conventions. If we were to categorize western animation by its art style and storytelling conventions, we would have at least a dozen tabs here on TV Tropes where we only have one WA tab. Heck, most Japanese people don't even distinguish between anime and foreign animation. It's all "anime" to them.

As for the current topic of conversation... I've got nothin'.

No, Orion, just some of us made some off-color jokes. I had to talk Surprise into laying down and reading a book to get her mind off of it (seriously, you want to see her kill someone, just suggest a child is being menaced).

I think I'm gonna take a break and play some King of Fighters. The thread's kind of winding down it seems.

I'll probably be watching Oban pretty soon

Ah shot, I missed Pip. Well, I hope he's feeling okay. Curse Spoony and his hilarious fury.

So, what are we -

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!?

I'm reading Liar Game, as I have been most of the day.

I know that feeling Kegi.

@crow I think I might've been able to find my mellow with this manga

and how does the revival round go?

Why don't y'all take a seat over there

Oh no foals were harmed. I just mentioned that I had bought a copy of the cookbook "The Silver Spoon" and stuff sorta went downhill from there

@Perpetual Lurker

Anime and Cartoons are the same idea in concept... but so are a car and a truck, or for that matter an airplane and a train. They accomplish similar goes, but the devil is in how they go about it, what thinking and mindsets go into it.

I think a large part of the problem is that the internet has perpetuated a very shallow view of what "anime" is. It's only here, for example, that pretenders like Avatar and Teen Titans can pass for the real thing. What highlights the difference is, basically, the attitudes behind the stories and the approach to the format. Western (or specifically American) animation still hasn't really lost the radio-show inspired "explain what we're seeing" style of writing. Granted, its gotten less obnoxious, but you still have to have Aang highlight what his plan is before he executes it so the viewer is sure to follow the action.

That, to me, is the big difference: Western Animation is obsessed with explanations, and making absolutely sure that you understand what's happening and there is no ambiguity. Anime on the other hand often relies on you to just "get" things, and doesn't care if it leaves you a little lost. I said earlier that I recently discovered Gensoumaden Saiyuki and the second DVD volume (episodes 6-10) are perfect examples—you often have no effing clue what's going on with the heroes and whether they like each other or not (a viewer with low intuition might even think they hate each other's guts), and the show never comes right out and says "these are a bunch of good friends acting tough because they're comfortable showing their worse sides to each other." It just lets you see that for yourself.

I think what often confuses these discussions is that they always become about "Anime Good, WA Bad" and people become defensive over that, and it cancels out all thought. I hope that doesn't happen here. The WA style of overly explaining things has its place and there are a lot of stories where it really works. It just needs to be pointed out that this is the monumental difference, and why shows like Avatar aren't quite anime even though they try their best to look like it.

edited 9th Jun '12 7:30:57 PM by Psi001

@Moe Ummmm, one of the things I notice most often in almost every anime I've watched is the ridiculous amounts of exposition. I'm pretty sure the author of Death Note wanted you to understand what was going on

edited 9th Jun '12 7:30:36 PM by gingerninja666

The "Show, don't just tell" approach to anime is just one of the reasons I like it.

Well...

This is acceptable, then. I suppose.

Yeah, but its usually things like what a Maten Scroll is and why its important, or nuances about how black magic works or some such—stuff that, in all honesty, needs exposition. Not stuff like "I'm going to point out that the villain has no self control so you'll understand why I'm jumping around on his boats while he's throwing fireballs at me."

Not to mention dubs tend to add a lot of exposition into more subtle anime scripts, usually in silent scenes, because western kids obviously like perpetual noise. Even worse, they repeat it for unneccessary stuff over and over while missing out important points made in the original.

Gets especially annoying in toy gimmick shows like Yu Gi Oh and Beyblade, there's only so much info you can give on how to strategize with a trading card or spinny disc.

edited 9th Jun '12 7:37:15 PM by Psi001

Like Death Note doesn't?

@Moe I still don't see it. You can't hold an entire country's animation output to those standards, same as you can't make blanket statements about everything not made in Japan. Every show is different on a case by case basis, sometimes even within a single show itself.

I agree that people jumping on the "Anime >>>> WA" train of thought with no thought is quite stupid. There is a reason why most people do, though: You only see the upper end of Japanese Animation get noticed overseas. People outside of Japan only get exposed to the "cream of the crop", so to speak, of anime, while simultaneously being exposed to the entirety of their own country's animation, which is more bad than good.

edited 9th Jun '12 7:38:16 PM by PerpetualLurker