My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic Forum Archive (nuked Western Animation thread)
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#21351 from Aboard The Damocles from Aboard The Damocles
[up] It just fits her character to be constantly contradictory. I'd be really dissapointed if that was her actual origin story [lol]
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#21352 from All alone from All alone
Shes Loki
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#21353
[up][up]But those flashbacks can't lie. They show us Sonic Rainboom even if no pony have idea that this hapen before they got CM.

edited 23rd Sep '11 1:19:37 PM by DeathCloud

They are like the others. Strange, hideous, resisting, fighting. Only these were not like the others. They did not die.
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#21354
Yes, her Mark probably did form as an effect of the Sonic Rainboom.
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#21355 from All alone from All alone
maybe she's her own mother
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#21356 from Aboard The Damocles from Aboard The Damocles
[up][up][up] and no one here is arguing against THAT part of the story, just everything around it.
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#21357 from All alone from All alone
she's really a fallen angel
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#21358 from Eastern US from Eastern US
^^But why, though? It's rare that I'm in agreement with Death, I'll admit, but I'm with him here - why does anyone think that Pinkie's making up her story? Metafictionally, that makes hers the only story in the episode that's a lie; in-universe, there's no reason for her to have made anything up, and no proof aside from "and that's how Equestria was made", which is just Pinkie being Pinkie. Pinkie's not stupid, nor is she malicious. She gains nothing from lying to the Crusaders about her cutie mark, so why wouldn't she tell the truth?

edited 23rd Sep '11 1:30:57 PM by RedSavant

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#21359 from All alone from All alone
here's an idea maybe she's really hundreds of years old and goes for reincarnations. She told the real story of how she got her cutie Mark but remember the wrong lifetime
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#21360
But as far as we see, she's another regular Earth pony with a regular life-span. Unless........ UNLESS PONIES ARE IMMORTAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!
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#21361
If you all goings to stick with your fanon about PP story being lie I going to stick with mine fanon of Dis Qord.
They are like the others. Strange, hideous, resisting, fighting. Only these were not like the others. They did not die.
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#21362
We're not sticking with any fanon. It's all speculative at this point and may not be canon- that's why it's called fanon! We're merely proposing theories that make sense to each of us.
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#21363 from Aboard The Damocles from Aboard The Damocles
[up][up][up][up][up] tbph, I'm 90% sure that she isn't lying. It's just that her story feels... wrong. The others make sense. They have lead ins, they're easy to predict based on what we know of the mane cast. Hers comes completely out of nowhere, and it's so ludicrously over the top that it feels kind of contrived.

I guess what I'm trying to say, is that I hope it's a lie (more than I actually think it's a lie), because it felt like the most inferior of the flashbacks by a wide margain. I figure my brain is desperately trying to throw it into discontinuity.

I dislike Pinkie, but I feel she deserves a better origin

edited 23rd Sep '11 1:42:46 PM by gingerninja666

"Schneizel! So you ARE the puppet master behind all this!" - Lelouch Lamperouge

Tealove is best pony
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#21364
So most weird and odd pony have most weird and odd origin story.

I don't see any problem.

edited 23rd Sep '11 1:46:46 PM by DeathCloud

They are like the others. Strange, hideous, resisting, fighting. Only these were not like the others. They did not die.
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#21365 from Aboard The Damocles from Aboard The Damocles
[up] I thought it was weird and odd to the story's detriment, that's my problem

edited 23rd Sep '11 1:49:12 PM by gingerninja666

"Schneizel! So you ARE the puppet master behind all this!" - Lelouch Lamperouge

Tealove is best pony
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#21366 from Eastern US from Eastern US
^At its heart, it's no less contrived or contrary to what we currently know about Pinkie than Applejack's was. In both, the sight of the rainbow from the Sonic Rainboom directly convinces the girls to become more like we know them. I can see where you're coming from, but since I'm not entirely sure what part of her origin is rubbing you the wrong way, I can't really say much else.
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#21367
[up][up] I can't see how it hurt story.
They are like the others. Strange, hideous, resisting, fighting. Only these were not like the others. They did not die.
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#21368 from Meinong's jungle from Meinong's jungle
My guess is that the basis of Pinkie's story (living a boring life on a farm) is true, but she exaggerated all the elements (i.e. rock farm rather than a regular farm). So it's true in one sense, but it's the details that are unreliable.
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#21369
[up]She could exaggerated but flashback could not lie to us.
They are like the others. Strange, hideous, resisting, fighting. Only these were not like the others. They did not die.
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#21370 from A land of potatoes from A land of potatoes
Rocks have a lot of uses.
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#21371 from All alone from All alone
flashbacks lie all the time time squad Keenan and Kel Power Rangers Bobobo Bo bobobo

edited 23rd Sep '11 1:59:45 PM by RandomChaos

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#21372
Once again I have an early morning job on Saturday that makes it so I can get breakfast, watch the episode and then go to do that. I'm okay with this.
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#21373 from Aboard The Damocles from Aboard The Damocles
@Red It's the "her living on a rock farm" part. I can understand everything the Rainboom did to them, since that was the point of the story.

  • Fluttershy and RD were in Flight school up in Cloudsdale. Not too big of a stretch, considering their both Pegasi, and we know that RD hails from there.
  • AJ went to Manehatten. It starts off with her at home, and it clearly establishes why AJ wanted to go there and how it was possible. (family connections)
  • Rarity was at school in what appeared to be Ponyville. Again, believable.
  • Twilight was in Canterlot. It was established that she originally came from there, and the story explains in detail how she became Celestia's pupil.

Pinkie's origin comes out of nowhere. The Rock farm had never appeared before, it wasn't set up in any way other than "I used to live there", and it's so over the top and stereotypically boring that it actually shattered my suspension of disbelief.

I know I'm not making any sense, I'm no good at explaining things [lol]

edited 23rd Sep '11 2:00:20 PM by gingerninja666

"Schneizel! So you ARE the puppet master behind all this!" - Lelouch Lamperouge

Tealove is best pony
kyun avatar
#21374
Ever hear of the Rashomon Effect? Stories parody and utilize this framework where several characters all try to tell what happened during a given situation in the past, and they are all completely different and contradict one another. Flashbacks can lie, because they're all formulated out of someone's memory, and being (usually) human, the character can make up false stories just as much as anything else.
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#21375
Some people 8 pages ago said that the "make sure it fits within our budget" part of Art of the Dress is out of place, since she was making them all dresses for free. Well, watching Suited for Success again, I don't see any part where she says that. If fact, she says that it will be a big boost for her business (though this could be interpreted as being about the publicity from the fashion show).
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