Yay.

@crow Eh, I don't want to just accept things and not think about them. I need to start finding flaws in things.

@ginger I don't really remember her from the show, but she got way too OP in the movie. That last fight scene was utterly ridiculous.

@Perpetual What about Orion Aurora?

I prefer overanalysis if I want to do that, personally.

edited 30th May '12 11:49:24 AM by crowlover

What about him?

You said the name is whatever you want it to be.

Oh yeah, Book. I really liked him. He was cool.

But I like being critical of things sometimes. If you can pick out problems in things it makes you feel smart, and then when you view something that doesn't have these problems, and it works, you can recognize why it works and you appreciate it and enjoy it more.

Well, Orion doesn't have a canon name, so yeah, it still holds. You could call him Starry Night in a fic if you wanted, and no one would really care. Of course, we have a sockpuppet here, so that changes things a bit, but he isn't exactly equivalent with a canon character.

Reposting my question because it got lost last page: Who's the red guy after the credits in Avengers? I thought he was Red Skull, but now I'm not so sure.

No idea. Off to wikipedia!

Hm. Apparently it's Thanos.

edited 30th May '12 11:53:13 AM by Pannic

Yeah, River did get a little ridiculous in the movie. In the series she had exactly one badass moment, which consisted of taking out three mooks.

Red guy is Thanos. He was involved with the Infinity Gauntlet (I think that's what it was called) which had a brief cameo in Asgard's vault back in Thor.

edited 30th May '12 11:54:03 AM by Crowfall

I believe it was Thanos.

edited 30th May '12 11:53:24 AM by PerpetualLurker

I'm just not a fan of the "unstoppable yet traumatized super soldier" type of character. because they're rarely ever given a wothy opponent, and the conflict is based around KEEPING them from kicking ass or the character learning to cope with the power, or learning to activate it at will, or convincing themselves to get over their issues and fight.

This is all well and good, but I'm also supposed to find he action scenes enjoyable, right? I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times "main chaacters curb-stomping people does not interest me" It might work from an emotional standpoint, but as a spectacle that I''m supposed to enjoy I just find it tooth grindingly annoying

edited 30th May '12 11:54:43 AM by gingerninja666

...Is he from Thor? Because that's the only Marvel canon movie I haven't seen relating to the Avengers.

For what it's worth, my favourite Firefly character was Zoe.

When it comes to media I'm generally positive. But if I find something I hate, I really hate.

@Perpetual I was actually talking about calling Derpy Orion, but I must have not been clear with my posts and, as a result, stretched it out longer than it should have been.

Well a lot of people do enjoy seeing characters do awesome stuff, and they aren't making movies for you specifically.

Red guy has not yet appeared in any of the Marvel movies. Avengers was his first appearance.

He hasn't been in any movies yet. He's more or less one of Marvel's go-to Big Bads for intergalactic threats. Like Darkseid in the DCU.

@crowlover

Ah, well, you could do that if you wanted. No one would agree with you, though.

edited 30th May '12 11:56:46 AM by PerpetualLurker

Ah, ok. I'm not super big on comic books, so my knowledge is rudimentary at best.

Also, I can't stand curb-stomp battles, unless the one being curb-stomped really deserved it. Arrogant villains are my least favorite types, because their smugness makes me want to punch their face in. Can't think of any other pet peeve tropes right now, but what are some of yours?

edited 30th May '12 11:57:56 AM by SkyStrike

Yeah, I had no idea who he was either. I had to look him up after seeing the movie.

I'm more a Vertigo guy than a Marvel guy.

@Lurker, is that all I am now? A cynical old brony at the age of 23 who questions everything Hasbro does, regardless of intent?

....Also, why are we talking about Firefly and The Avengers in a My Little Pony thread? Did we get derailed by crossover fanfics again?

@Sky (Assuming that question is directed at everyone) As well as World of Snark, Humans Are Bastards is another trope that really gets under my skin.

edited 30th May '12 11:59:17 AM by PurpleDalek

I have a surprisingly large comic book knowledge base, though it comes entirely from cartoons, browsing this wiki, and Atop the Fourth Wall. I've never actually read a physical comic book outside of a few manga a friend gave me a long time ago.

@Calnos

You asked why the Derpy toy made you suspicious rather than happy, and the easy answer is cynicism. Most people are cynical when it comes to companies and their motives, so it's not just you. Sorry if I offended you.

edited 30th May '12 12:01:26 PM by PerpetualLurker

@Crow sigh... I hate it when people say tat I have to adjust MYSELF to the movies

I just can't stand watching main characters do stuff effortlessly. I can't even comprehend the appeal

@Calnos It's a long time until ponies, so I guess we're just discussing whatever comes to mind.

And yes, Purple, that question was for everyone.

@ginger That bothers me a bit too. If the hero has to walk through the Valley of Doom or whatnot, he'd better end up getting some doom.

Of course, there are some moments that are just so awesome that I can deal with them. Hulk punching Alfred (the whale thing), I was on the fence about. He seems really OP, but it was just so cool.

edited 30th May '12 12:03:15 PM by SkyStrike