MLP Forum Archive - Page 8366

#209126 Pannic Wed, 30th May '12 12:00:48 PM

Don't be silly Calnos, I'm the cynic.

#209127 Red Savant Wed, 30th May '12 12:00:55 PM from Eastern US

Same as always. =)

PCHOOOOOOOO

#209128 Pannic Wed, 30th May '12 12:01:46 PM

Ahh, Atop the Fourth Wall. I stopped watching because he's too whiny and yells too much.

And he is not nearly as good of a singer as he thinks he is.

#209129 Purple Dalek Wed, 30th May '12 12:02:52 PM from the Moon

I'm an optimist. Which is probably why Humans Are Bastards annoys me so much.

edited 30th May '12 12:04:41 PM by PurpleDalek

The Eleventh Doctor is cool.

#209130 Crowfall Wed, 30th May '12 12:03:29 PM

@ginger: Come on, you may not enjoy it, but is it really that hard to see why some people do? Its escapism. This is the kind of stuff people wish they could do. When you're bored and fantasizing about getting into a fight with ninjas or whatever, you don't picture yourself getting the shit beaten out of you, you imagine yourself kicking ass. Characters pulling off CMO As triggers that "man, I wish I could do that" response.

edited 30th May '12 12:03:57 PM by Crowfall

#209131 gingerninja 666 Wed, 30th May '12 12:03:56 PM from Aboard The Damocles

@Sky Pet Peeve Tropes

Downer Ending
Hard Work Hardly Works
Overshadowed by Awesome
Shonen Upgrade
Superpower Lottery
The Gift
Inspector Lestrade
Can't Catch Up
Curb-Stomp Battle (when done by heroes)

edited 30th May '12 12:06:09 PM by gingerninja666

"Contests fought between two masters are decided instantly. An invisible battle is now raging between the two of them." Lulu vs Schneizel

#209132 Sky Strike Wed, 30th May '12 12:06:08 PM from Trottingham

@ginger But you enjoyed Azula, even though she has The Gift. Was it because of her manipulativeness?

If you stare into the abyss long enough, it stares into you.

Element of Indecision.

#209133 Perpetual Lurker Wed, 30th May '12 12:06:39 PM

@Ginger Almost all of those don't bother you when applied to villains, and you know it. Kinda of a Double Standard, IMO, but I know why you feel that way.

edited 30th May '12 12:09:10 PM by PerpetualLurker

#209134 Pannic Wed, 30th May '12 12:07:19 PM

I agree with Ginger in that it's not satisfying seeing a hero effortlessly pull things off by sheer force of awesome. Though with me I'm more lenient towards heroes who win because of their intelligence, willpower, or morality, rather than the sort of Curb-Stomp Battle you get with the films by that guy who did Equilibrium.

edited 30th May '12 12:07:47 PM by Pannic

#209135 gingerninja 666 Wed, 30th May '12 12:07:50 PM from Aboard The Damocles

@Sky Mostly I just ignored that part of her character (same with Twi) as often as I could.

Plus, I was more tolerant of it cuz she was a villain

"Contests fought between two masters are decided instantly. An invisible battle is now raging between the two of them." Lulu vs Schneizel

#209136 Purple Dalek Wed, 30th May '12 12:09:57 PM from the Moon

I think Overshadowed by Awesome is alright as long as it's acknowledged in the story.

"You could be a much better pizza tosser if you didn't stand in Bob's shadow, Jeff!"

The Eleventh Doctor is cool.

#209137 Sky Strike Wed, 30th May '12 12:11:06 PM from Trottingham

I might have to go Wiki Walk to dig up tropes I don't like. I'll be back later.

If you stare into the abyss long enough, it stares into you.

Element of Indecision.

#209138 Perpetual Lurker Wed, 30th May '12 12:12:24 PM

I'm a firm believer in Tropes Are Not Bad, as well as Tropes Are Not Good. Anything can be done well or poorly, so you should take it on a work by work basis.

#209139 gingerninja 666 Wed, 30th May '12 12:13:56 PM from Aboard The Damocles

@Pannic Oh, fucking Kurt Wimmer! -_-

He's on my personal shit list alongside Cameron and Kubrick

He's actually gone on record saying that he dislikes tension, and that he thinks all heroes should win quickly, and easily.

... needless to say, I don't think he and I could EVER be friends.

WHAT THE FUCK KIND OF IDEOLOGY IS THAT?!

"Contests fought between two masters are decided instantly. An invisible battle is now raging between the two of them." Lulu vs Schneizel

#209140 Perpetual Lurker Wed, 30th May '12 12:15:31 PM

@Ginger

A... completely valid one? Subjective things are subjective. I disagree with a lot of your opinions just as much as I disagree with his, but I never say that you are wrong outside of encouraging you to try things before deciding you won't like it.

#209141 Pannic Wed, 30th May '12 12:16:10 PM

Yeah, that's exactly what I'm talking about, Ginger. Seriously, that's just a recipe for bad storytelling.

edited 30th May '12 12:16:34 PM by Pannic

#209142 Purple Dalek Wed, 30th May '12 12:16:37 PM from the Moon

Avatar may have been mediocre, but I love Aliens (second best action movie of all time!) too damn much to dislike Cameron.

The Eleventh Doctor is cool.

#209143 Crowfall Wed, 30th May '12 12:17:11 PM

Kurt Wimmer you say? Let's see what else he's done. *checks IMDB*

Oh shit, he wrote the new Total Recall? Crap, as if I wasn't already worried about that.

What's wrong with Cameron? Most of his movies are amazing.

edited 30th May '12 12:18:16 PM by Crowfall

#209144 gingerninja 666 Wed, 30th May '12 12:17:55 PM from Aboard The Damocles

@Purple I despise Cameron as a person, but not enough for me to hate his movies (Quaritch is too damn badass, man)

KUBRICK! I'm never touhing one of his movies again.

"Contests fought between two masters are decided instantly. An invisible battle is now raging between the two of them." Lulu vs Schneizel

#209145 Badwolfwho Wed, 30th May '12 12:19:21 PM from Stardust Road

David Cameron seems to claim that he owns the word Avatar. So I dislike him on that basis.

Tealove is best pony.Pony Fanon Index

#209146 Purple Dalek Wed, 30th May '12 12:19:47 PM from the Moon

Kubrick was a terrible person. He reduced an actress to tears whilst filming The Shining. Or so I heard.

I haven't heard of Cameron doing anything particularly bad though.

Seriously, Aliens is awesome. Second only to Die Hard in the action genre.

edited 30th May '12 12:21:43 PM by PurpleDalek

The Eleventh Doctor is cool.

#209147 Pannic Wed, 30th May '12 12:21:01 PM

James Cameron is an unpleasant prima donna. A lot of his movies are fantastic however. I don't like Avatar, but I really love the first two Terminator films, and despite it's flaws I think that Titanic is a fine movie.

Kubrick was a bit of an asshole, but thing is he was a perfectionist. Of his films I've only seen Dr. Strangelove and Full Metal Jacket, though.

edited 30th May '12 12:22:59 PM by Pannic

#209148 gingerninja 666 Wed, 30th May '12 12:21:59 PM from Aboard The Damocles

@Crow Well, on the set of The Abyss he forced one of the actresses to lie there in the freezing cold getting her chest pounded on by a guy's fist for... I'm not sure how long, but they used up ALL their film stock (hours and hours of footage) on that one shot, and he STILL wasn't satisfied. The actress actually walked off set and refused to come back on unless James moved onto another shot.

I like his movies, I just hate HIM

edited 30th May '12 12:23:02 PM by gingerninja666

"Contests fought between two masters are decided instantly. An invisible battle is now raging between the two of them." Lulu vs Schneizel

#209149 Pannic Wed, 30th May '12 12:23:08 PM

Oh, back on Avatar, fun fact: Stephen Lang, the actor who played Quaritch, played Colonel Jessup in the original stage production of A Few Good Men. Someone needs to approach him at a convention and get him to deliver the "You can't handle the truth!" monologue.

#209150 Crowfall Wed, 30th May '12 12:25:04 PM

See, this is why I prefer to know nothing about the people who make my entertainment. That's the kind of thing I don't want to be thinking about when I'm trying to enjoy a movie.