Don't worry, Twi wasn't holding the idiot ball during the episode. I ate it before she saw herself.

In regard to average quality, I think that season 1 is better; season 2 just had some better individual episodes. The best season 2 episodes are better than the best season 2 episodes, but season 2 had some of the least good episodes as well.

I wasn't here for that discussion, so I really don't get how the fact that living creatures have to use the bathroom is a shocking revelation. >_>

Twilight was acting ridiculous before her future self even showed up. God why am I the only brony who remembers "scheduling a schedule to make another schedule"?

@Orion: You ATE the idiot Ball? How do you have any intelligence left?

......

How did it taste?

edited 24th May '12 8:59:02 PM by edvedd

@Teeth That's not what I'm talking about. That is exactly how one would react and that was one of the reasons I was looking forward to it. Then I learned that there is no disaster and this entire thing was caused by Twilight returning to the past to try and give her past self a message that caused the entire thing in the first place. That's where she was holding the Idiot Ball. The entire thing could have been avoided if she hadn't returned the past. In the end, nothing major would have changed.

Rule #1 of Time Travel in literally every work is do not fuck with the past more than you have to. That message was completely unneeded.

@Moe Yes, that is ridiculous but that's just how Twilight is after her personality was exaggerated. Just leaving her be wouldn't have lead to that epic mess.

edited 24th May '12 9:00:25 PM by Zelenal

@edvedd a few post isn't really a discussion.

That reminds me. I watched the parts of the second day in the Matt Engarde case, and it was very different from the summary I read.

@Moe: Oooookay, why is our bathroom usage considered discontinuity? I mean, it's normal biology behavior.

@Zel Again. Mild concussion + sleep deprivation. Was what she did dumb? Yes. Was it a random break of character given the circumstances? No.

Gah, I hate that game. It's so stupidly hard. However, the finale case was epic.

I just don't like it. Simple as that.

edited 24th May '12 9:01:50 PM by Zelenal

@Zel: The ball was no bigger than a golf ball. Also, it tasted like seaweed.

BECAUSE POOP

I dunno. It's just an example.

edited 24th May '12 9:01:54 PM by edvedd

Personally I think both seasons were awesome. Season 2 improved in a lot of things but missed in others season 1 did great.

edited 24th May '12 9:02:41 PM by FallenLegend

How does that shatter any cannon at all? I think you are confusing your personal fanon.

It's only an Idiot Ball if it isn't justified by the circumstances. Yeah, it was a bad decision, but given the circumstances there was a reason that she made the stupid decision.

It's mainly that it messed up his personal headcanon, which is why I don't really feel like rehashing this. I don't really ever call discontinuity on something unless it contradicts canon somehow, which ponies using the facilities clearly doesn't.

edited 24th May '12 9:04:11 PM by JapaneseTeeth

@Ed: Again, why? You humans do it to. I mean, yeah, it's disgusting, but we can't help that.

@Zel It's fine not to like it. Just don't call it something that it isn't.

@Story I agree nothing about season 2 was so bad to label it canon discontinuity on the contrary.

@Zelenal actually the aesop was don't over worry abou the future.

edited 24th May '12 9:04:56 PM by FallenLegend

@Orion: I asked that. Seaweed, huh? I didn't expect that. Also, I don't care about biology. Just making conversation.

edited 24th May '12 9:05:03 PM by edvedd

@Teeth: For the loop, sure. However, somewhere down the line she made the decision to go back to the past to try and give her past self that message. While the sleep deprivation works as an excuse for everything after that, it doesn't for the original trip.

In fact, he should have seen it coming given the Word Of God about pony reproduction.

@Story: Boom Chika Wow Wow.

She didn't make that decision until the very end of the episode, after she was already sleep deprived.

edited 24th May '12 9:06:21 PM by JapaneseTeeth

@Zel Then you get into how exactly a Stable Time Loop works, which is never clear. For all we know, there was no first time, and the whole thing is a predestination paradox.