#203976
Thu, 24th May '12 8:44:11 PM
from the bottom of my heart
Lightly armored ponies with shoulder(?)-mounted lances.
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#203977
Thu, 24th May '12 8:45:28 PM
from Meinong's jungle
@Zel: Believe me, watching the episodes just isn't the same as reading the synopsis. Like half the episodes I thought were going to suck before I actually saw them. If you watch them and still dislike them, that's fine, but at least give them a fair shot before denouncing them.
#203978
Thu, 24th May '12 8:45:36 PM
from somewhere in your mind
No. As I said before, the opinions I held on the episode after reading the synopsis always stayed after watching the episode. While there may be one or two moments in it that I enjoy (as is with most of S2), in the end, I still won't like it. I know me. I won't like it.
The distance between madness and genius is measured only by success.
#203979
Thu, 24th May '12 8:46:41 PM
from Meinong's jungle
Out of curiousity, how much of the season have you watched already?
#203980
Thu, 24th May '12 8:47:03 PM
You know, thinking about it, I don't think watching it would help Zel at all. He'll be going into it with the plot spoiled and expecting to hate it. There's really no way that he could like it at this point. Looks like the same thing happened with the rest of Season 2. And this is why spoilers are bad.
#203981
Thu, 24th May '12 8:47:47 PM
from the bottom of my heart
No, that's why going to a series/episode/whatever with expectations is bad.
edited 24th May '12 8:48:02 PM by KylerThatch
#203982
Thu, 24th May '12 8:49:26 PM
from Delamare
well DUH if you go in thinking your not going to like it you'll just make it a sefl fulfilling prophecy, you'll nitpick the tiny things, ignore anything good etc etc.. same issue Ginger has, he wants everything o be to perfect, any little issue gets exp[loded beyond measure and the good stuff gets brushed aside.
and there's nothing wrong with season 2..other then a lack of real ensemble pieces. It's got some of the best damn episodes in the series so far.
Build a fool proof system, and the world will create a better fool.
#203983
Thu, 24th May '12 8:50:06 PM
from the Land of Classics
Zel, I'm actually feeling torn here. It ticks me off when people diss things just from summaries, and yet... well, I've been down the "I know myself, I won't like it" road too.
On the other hand, I've also seen "I know myself" be completely, utterly wrong too. And this is the Season 2 finale, so you should try it anyway no matter what your expectations are. Those expectations could easily be wrong.
#203984
Thu, 24th May '12 8:50:07 PM
What I don't get, though, is how anything in Season 2 is so canon shattering that it calls for Fanon Discontinuity.
#203985
Thu, 24th May '12 8:50:48 PM
from Meinong's jungle
Well, if he doesn't want to watch them, he doesn't half to. As long as he doesn't start complaining about them I don't see any problem with it. His loss. 
The only thing in S2 that I even come close to calling into discontinuity is the whole "Spike turns giant when he gets greedy" thing, if only because 1. it comes out of freaking nowhere and 2. the show itself utterly ignores any and all implications of it. Not to mention that Dragon Quest seemingly contradicts it anyway. But even that isn't too bad.
The only thing in S2 that I even come close to calling into discontinuity is the whole "Spike turns giant when he gets greedy" thing, if only because 1. it comes out of freaking nowhere and 2. the show itself utterly ignores any and all implications of it. Not to mention that Dragon Quest seemingly contradicts it anyway. But even that isn't too bad.
edited 24th May '12 8:52:25 PM by JapaneseTeeth
#203986
Thu, 24th May '12 8:51:52 PM
from Route 120
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x Several. It seems to me like the second half of S2 was more 'fan-involved', if you know what I mean.
#203987
Thu, 24th May '12 8:52:02 PM
from Appleloosa
Well the existence of other, aparently normal, alicorns is a pretty big deal.
Life is simple: it has no nontrivial normal subgroups.
#203988
Thu, 24th May '12 8:52:08 PM
from Mexico City!
goodnight orion, marston and anyone i might have missed
I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else. C. S. Lewis
#203989
Thu, 24th May '12 8:52:09 PM
from somewhere in your mind
@Teeth: I've watched episodes 1-16. After that, I couldn't stand it anymore so I gave up and just read the synopses. I was going to watch "It's About Time" but after I learned that the entire plot was caused by Twilight holding the Idiot Ball in regards to the time travel spell, I decided not to.
The distance between madness and genius is measured only by success.
#203990
Thu, 24th May '12 8:52:10 PM
from the Land of Classics
What I don't get, though, is how anything in Season 2 is so canon shattering that it calls for Fanon Discontinuity.
Ponies pooping. Do we want to have that discussion again?
#203991
Thu, 24th May '12 8:53:24 PM
from Andromeda Galaxy
@Fallen: I'm still awake.
Yeah, Andromeda is heading for you. You got over 9000 years until it collides.
#203992
Thu, 24th May '12 8:53:38 PM
They do so why bring it up?
edited 24th May '12 8:53:44 PM by Chadaman99
#203993
Thu, 24th May '12 8:54:26 PM
from somewhere in your mind
Also, I'm not saying every part of the episodes are bad. There are parts of the episodes that I have watched that are really good and there were bits that I read in the synopsis that I liked but, all in all, I don't think it would be enough to redeem it for me.
The distance between madness and genius is measured only by success.
#203994
Thu, 24th May '12 8:54:45 PM
from Meinong's jungle
@Moe: No we do not, especially given you were the only guy who cared.
@Zel: Twilight didn't have the idiot ball in that episode. She received a message from her future self that implied an imminent disaster, and her initial reaction really isn't that far off from how you'd expect someone to react. By the time she really does start acting ridiculous, she hasn't slept for about 4 days, and we know from Applebuck Season what kind of effect that can have.
@Zel: Twilight didn't have the idiot ball in that episode. She received a message from her future self that implied an imminent disaster, and her initial reaction really isn't that far off from how you'd expect someone to react. By the time she really does start acting ridiculous, she hasn't slept for about 4 days, and we know from Applebuck Season what kind of effect that can have.
edited 24th May '12 8:55:08 PM by JapaneseTeeth
#203995
Thu, 24th May '12 8:54:45 PM
from Mexico City!
@orion my bad
I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else. C. S. Lewis
#203996
Thu, 24th May '12 8:55:34 PM
@Zel It's About Time was Twilight acting reasonable given the circumstances, and at the end when she gets goofy, it's because she got hit on the head and hadn't slept for three days. I don't really see an Idiot Ball there at all. These are the kind of things that you miss if you don't watch it. It is far easier to have everything make sense when the details are all there, rather than compressed/discarded like they are with a synopsis.
edited 24th May '12 8:57:03 PM by PerpetualLurker
#203997
Thu, 24th May '12 8:55:48 PM
from Mexico City!
@Zelenal it wasn't the idiot ball imo even twilight has to have flaws
I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else. C. S. Lewis
#203998
Thu, 24th May '12 8:56:09 PM
from Appleloosa
Well she had the idiot ball breifly when she refused to listen to herself. But the rest can be explained by sleep deprivation.
Life is simple: it has no nontrivial normal subgroups.
#203999
Thu, 24th May '12 8:56:40 PM
from Over there. Maybe?
@Chad: I'm SO glad I wasn't a part of that discussion.
edited 24th May '12 8:57:15 PM by edvedd
#204000
Thu, 24th May '12 8:56:40 PM
from the Land of Classics
@Teeth: I've watched episodes 1-16. After that, I couldn't stand it anymore so I gave up and just read the synopses. I was going to watch "It's About Time" but after I learned that the entire plot was caused by Twilight holding the Idiot Ball in regards to the time travel spell, I decided not to.
So.. Zelenal... can I take it that you are also on the sadly short list of people who thinks Season One was superior to Season Two?
I actually kind of agree about declaring much of Season 2 to be Discontinuity, I just don't think the Finale should be one of those things.
They do so why bring it up?
Context: Someone asked if Season Two brought up anything "so canon-shattering" that anyone would want to call it Discontinuity. I brought that up as an example.