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#168576 Death Cloud Sun, 22nd Apr '12 4:28:18 PM from Horsehead Nebula

Not counting one moment in song there nothing in episode concentrated on her Alicorn status and her wings.

Because he know I'm going to go out in this plane and I'm going to remove one of His creations from His universe.

#168577 Sky Strike Sun, 22nd Apr '12 4:29:08 PM from the depths of the abyss

@Blue 1. That didn't come up much except for when Cadence flies across that gap or whatever. So not much of a change.

2. I'd like to get more backstory on alicorns, but I doubt we'll get some anytime soon.

Why shouldn't they adore me?/Is it not within my right?/I'll not be overshadowed/Mine is not the lesser light

Element of Indecision.

#168578 ilsemmr Sun, 22nd Apr '12 4:29:14 PM from Austin

I didn't even know Anastasia was supposed to be based on something until I was much older... (well, like 12, but still, the movie came out when I was 6 or 7)

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#168579 Pipping Fool Sun, 22nd Apr '12 4:30:08 PM from Happyland

It wasn't

Edit: Holy Moly. I gotta get used to the pacing of this thread!

edited 22nd Apr '12 4:31:02 PM by PippingFool

Strong Pokemon, Weak Pokemon. That is an overused quote.

Original people try to come up with something creative.

#168580 condottiera Sun, 22nd Apr '12 4:30:50 PM from Chicago

Did you know that Anastasia and her family have been canonized by the Russian Orthodox Church?

She's literally a saint.

But Gregor Mendell is best saint!

How did they ever lock the trope page of Lolita?

#168581 Bluespade Sun, 22nd Apr '12 4:30:56 PM from Texas

Alright, elaboration a go: I'm gonna pretty much quote myself from last night. A lot of sci-fi/fantasy works tend to deal in a whole lot of exposition and info-dumps to characterize their settings. This tends to put the focus on the world while not putting enough focus on the characters and plot, creating a stale, inconsistent story. Other works, like MLP:FIM, develop their setting purely through direct evidence, relying on the viewers to infer further info about the setting. This both causes the viewers to become more engaged in the story and allows their imagination to fill in any accidental plot-holes, resulting in an over all better defined setting.

So basically, I don't think the show should ever pause the story and explain to us what it means to be a princess and where alicorns come from. We know what they are, we know what they do, that's all we need. We can fill in the rest ourselves.

Element of Dullness.

#168582 gingerninja 666 Sun, 22nd Apr '12 4:31:40 PM from Aboard The Damocles

Y'know, cuz I'm not familiar with a lot of history, I actually kinda like the Historical Villain Upgrade trope to an extent.

At least when it makes something as awesomely ridiculous as Rasputin from Anastasia

"Contests fought between two masters are decided instantly. An invisible battle is now raging between the two of them." Lulu vs Schneizel

#168583 Death Cloud Sun, 22nd Apr '12 4:31:54 PM from Horsehead Nebula

Who else like that Givingafuck Changeling who turned into Pinkie when she wished for it?

Because he know I'm going to go out in this plane and I'm going to remove one of His creations from His universe.

#168584 Bluespade Sun, 22nd Apr '12 4:32:29 PM from Texas

I had no strong feelings about her being an alicorn one way or the other. Why did you like it?

I like it because it's more consistent. Luna and Celestia are princesses, and they are both alicorns. Cadance is a princess. If she wasn't an alicorn, it would raise questions.

Yeah, she was amusing.

edited 22nd Apr '12 4:33:05 PM by Bluespade

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#168585 storyyeller Sun, 22nd Apr '12 4:32:34 PM from Appleloosa

Do you think this is the best episode to show to people in order to get them interested? I know someone who I'm sure would love it if you actually watched it, but she has absolutely no interest, apparently due to a beleif that it is just like the old generations.

If there is anything that you are alone in thinking, it's "thinking that you're alone in thinking of your theories".

#168586 gingerninja 666 Sun, 22nd Apr '12 4:32:46 PM from Aboard The Damocles

nvm

edited 22nd Apr '12 4:32:56 PM by gingerninja666

"Contests fought between two masters are decided instantly. An invisible battle is now raging between the two of them." Lulu vs Schneizel

#168587 condottiera Sun, 22nd Apr '12 4:33:17 PM from Chicago

I bet if they ever did try to explain the deal with alicorns, we'd only pick it apart till we found a flaw.

Also, I think it's just that the royal family are all alicorns, and Prince Blueblood just wasn't because he's a more distant relative and the product of a union with a commoner.

How did they ever lock the trope page of Lolita?

#168588 Pipping Fool Sun, 22nd Apr '12 4:33:22 PM from Happyland

Bluth!Rasputin was a lot of fun.

The fact that he was voiced by Christopher Lloyd voiced him.

(I guess I should point out I found the main leads really annoying. Now, if the whole movie was about the Royal Judge. That would be interesting)

edited 22nd Apr '12 4:35:29 PM by PippingFool

Strong Pokemon, Weak Pokemon. That is an overused quote.

Original people try to come up with something creative.

#168589 ilsemmr Sun, 22nd Apr '12 4:33:24 PM from Austin

Yeah, I think the only think the show might have alluded to is that alicorns are born and/or they age at a similar/same rate as regular ponies. Evidence: Cadance ages from Twilight's imagine spot to the present day. I don't think alicorns are created from normal ponies anymore just because of that short scene.

The writers are really good.

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#168590 Japanese Teeth Sun, 22nd Apr '12 4:33:36 PM from Meinong's jungle

@Bluespade: That's pretty much how I feel about it. There's no point in introducing a bunch of worldbuilding stuff that isn't going to have plot relevance.

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#168591 Bluespade Sun, 22nd Apr '12 4:33:41 PM from Texas

@Storyyeller:Maybe if you skipped the BBBFF song.

Element of Dullness.

#168592 storyyeller Sun, 22nd Apr '12 4:33:48 PM from Appleloosa

Luna and Celestia are princesses, and they are both alicorns. Cadance is a princess. If she wasn't an alicorn, it would raise questions.

Blueblood is a prince, but not an alicorn. I think that Prince/Princess is just a generic term for a number of different positions.

If there is anything that you are alone in thinking, it's "thinking that you're alone in thinking of your theories".

#168593 condottiera Sun, 22nd Apr '12 4:34:52 PM from Chicago

Rasputin may not have been evil, but he was a no-good charlatan. He had it coming.

See my above post

edited 22nd Apr '12 4:35:18 PM by condottiera

How did they ever lock the trope page of Lolita?

#168594 Death Cloud Sun, 22nd Apr '12 4:35:00 PM from Horsehead Nebula

@ storyyeller Only if you desperate. Better something from s1. From season 2 I think best is cider episode, because it funny to see ponies drinking beer like drink.

Because he know I'm going to go out in this plane and I'm going to remove one of His creations from His universe.

#168595 Sky Strike Sun, 22nd Apr '12 4:35:12 PM from the depths of the abyss

@story Sure, I guess. It's a bit sappy, but this has some of the best action so far. Although she'd have no idea what the buck is going on, I think anyone would enjoy this episode.

Why shouldn't they adore me?/Is it not within my right?/I'll not be overshadowed/Mine is not the lesser light

Element of Indecision.

#168596 gingerninja 666 Sun, 22nd Apr '12 4:35:20 PM from Aboard The Damocles

@Blue Could you articulate what was wrong with the BBBF song?

I agree with you for the most part, I just an't explain why

"Contests fought between two masters are decided instantly. An invisible battle is now raging between the two of them." Lulu vs Schneizel

#168597 Bluespade Sun, 22nd Apr '12 4:35:37 PM from Texas

I bet if they ever did try to explain the deal with alicorns, we'd only pick it apart till we found a flaw.

That's basically my point about subtle, shown world-building as opposed to info-dumps.

That's pretty much how I feel about it. There's no point in introducing a bunch of worldbuilding stuff that isn't going to have plot relevance.

I actually LOVE worldbuilding, I just prefer it to be done subtly. Hearts Warming Eve was one of my favorite episodes.

Element of Dullness.

#168598 L Mage Sun, 22nd Apr '12 4:35:50 PM from The Black Tower

Equestria is the precursor to Dorne, Princess Nymeria was once a pony

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#168599 condottiera Sun, 22nd Apr '12 4:36:34 PM from Chicago

@L Mage: ???

How did they ever lock the trope page of Lolita?

#168600 Bluespade Sun, 22nd Apr '12 4:36:55 PM from Texas

@Ginger:It's just so very, very cheesy and childish. Its also just not a good song, imo. Basically, Tastes Like Diabetes.

Element of Dullness.