My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic Forum Archive (nuked Western Animation thread)
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#52901
I get that, but I'm more concerned with the fact that she doesn't bother to try and figure out why it works. At the end she just accepts it, despite spending an entire episode trying to study it. She just seems to decide that it's suddenly alright to take that something happens on faith without ever trying to figure out why it happens. Yeah, it's not blind faith; she has empirical evidence that it happens. But we also had empirical evidence that lightning happened and we still used to believe that it was because some big many who lived in the sky was angry!

If science didn't exist at all in this setting, I wouldn't care. But Twilight treats magic as a set of rules, as you would physical laws - she treats it as a science. And when she does she's just told, "Oh, don't bother trying to learn why. Just accept that it happens.". I can understand, accept, and even enjoy a bit of romanticism. But It doesn't hurt the beauty of a sunset to know a little bit about it. I hate the fact that some people seem to think that reason and beauty are incompatible. Even if you know why something amazing happens, that doesn't make it less amazing, so I hate when shows just shove aside reason and science in favour of unfiltered romanticism.
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#52902 from Singapore from Singapore
I still think Pinkie Sense is an Earth Pony power.

[down] I counter that I believe it's based on the Earth Pony power to "read the rocks", which can be expressed as the ability to find rich loamy soil, or as the ability to feel for gem- or mineral-rich grounds. Thus her Pinkie Sense is based on an ability she honed a lot as a filly on the family Rock Farm. Without using her power to hunt for rocks, gems, or minerals of a specific type, her senses turned towards reading other things.

edited 11th Dec '11 9:25:09 PM by AceOfScarabs

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#52903 from The Magitek Holyland from The Magitek Holyland
For most of the episode, she wasn't trying to figure out how it works, she was trying to get data to prove that it was a hoax, or coincidence.

[up] I disagree. I think it's a pegasus power.

edited 11th Dec '11 9:15:04 PM by Enlong

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#52904 from Meinong's jungle from Meinong's jungle
I think it's more that the only reason she was examining the Pinkie Sense was to disprove it. She was interested in studying it only insofar as she could disprove that it was a thing. Since her entire motivation was "disprove Pinkie", when it turned out that Pinkie was right she didn't have any reason to keep messing with it. Of course, the real reason is simply that there just wasn't enough time to fit that into the episode. I'd be all for Twilight trying to figure out the mechanism behind Pinkie Sense in another episode, although I doubt it'll happen because it's funnier that we don't know.
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#52905 from Singapore from Singapore
Yeah, Twilight was doing it wrong that time around.
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#52906
I'd be all for Twilight trying to figure out the mechanism behind Pinkie Sense in another episode, although I doubt it'll happen because it's funnier that we don't know.
The mechanism itself could be even funnier!
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#52907 from Meinong's jungle from Meinong's jungle
Also, why I fully agree that analyzing something doesn't detract from the beauty or merit of it, I also think that there's a point where you can just throw up your hands and not bother. I mean, I wrote a bunch of reviews of the show that basically focus on overanalyzing it, but sometimes I just go "Eh, I'm just going to chill and watch it".

EDIT: [up] My fear is that the mechanism will turn out to be "Eh, it's Pinkie", which makes sense, but would be an enormous cop out.

edited 11th Dec '11 9:18:44 PM by JapaneseTeeth

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#52908
The pinker you are, the better it works!
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#52909
A manticore's roar messes Rarity's hair: An upset "My hair!"
A dragon's roar messes Rarity's hair: An indignant "How rude!"

Our little Rarity is growing up. *sniff* [lol]
Pronounced "Sid-zellia" "Miss Cheerilee, don't make me greedy. You wouldn't like me when I'm greedy."
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#52910 from behind you from behind you
Her hair was pretty punk though.
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#52911 from Meinong's jungle from Meinong's jungle
Am I the only person who was reminded of Jessie from Pokemon?
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#52912
Her hair was pretty punk though.

I wonder what Photo Finish would have thought of it?
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#52913 from behind you from behind you
She would have said, "VE GO!

Wait, no, it would have been, "DE MAGICKS!"

Wait, that's not it either.
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#52914
She would have said, "I, Photo Finish, will knock you all down!"
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#52915 from Mexico City! from Mexico City!
I just read your review JT I love reading them, very mature and objetive
I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen, not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else. C. S. Lewis
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#52916 from Meinong's jungle from Meinong's jungle
I do what I can. waii
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#52917 from 4th and Main. from 4th and Main.
Having seen "Secret of My Excess" again from beginning to end, I'm still in the "Neat, but not awesome" category. If it wasn't for the Spike x Rarity Ship Tease, it'd be a mostly forgettable episode.

Still better than "The Mysterious Mare Do Well, " at least.

—R.J.
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#52918
I hate the fact that some people seem to think that reason and beauty are incompatible
To be fair, it almost always is exactly so.
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#52919 from Canada from Canada
Gogo Hairbun Twi.
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#52920 from Anvilania from Anvilania
[up][up] I don't agree with that at all.
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#52921
You might also disagree that water is wet for all I care.

There's pretty much always a lot of cynicism in antireligious propaganda. Dawkins and Hitchens are especially amazing at both talking about how amazing a materialistic POV on universe is and switching into FUCK YOU RELIGIOUS PEOPLE I WILL DESTROY EVERYTHING YOU LOVE AND HOLD DEAR YOU WILL ROT LIKE A SACK OF WORMS AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU COULD DO HA mode.

Trying to understand something is one thing. Pretending that something can't exist just because you don't understand it is another thing, and I don't want to live on the same planet with people who pretend such kind of logic is true quite frankly.

Measuring marigolds is a very real principle. Clouds cease to be any sort of an interesting sight if you look at them as if they were only a bunch of steam and nothing more.

edited 12th Dec '11 12:57:44 AM by thefran

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#52922 from Aboard The Damocles from Aboard The Damocles
ugh, I just woke up, my head is kinda groggy. What's the problem?
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#52923 from SD Lucifer from SD Lucifer
[up]That MLPFIM is anti religion ? Or pro religion?

BTW Who is Dawkins and Hitchens?
They are like the others. Strange, hideous, resisting, fighting. Only these were not like the others. They did not die.
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#52924 from Aboard The Damocles from Aboard The Damocles
Oh Fuck! Seriously?!

I got places to be, I don't have time for this shit. I'll see you guys a little later [lol]

edited 12th Dec '11 1:10:58 AM by gingerninja666

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thefran avatar
#52925
That MLPFIM is anti religion ? Or pro religion?
I do believe you've been talking about feeling pinkie keen's aesop, no?

Feeling Pinkie Keen's aesop is neither anti nor pro religion. It is anti anti religion.

edited 12th Dec '11 1:19:21 AM by thefran

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