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#50201 from The Woods. Where else? from The Woods. Where else?
That's the thing, I know how to draw real horses well enough, it's the cartoon ones I have trouble with :p

Pagetopper!

edited 6th Dec '11 6:09:47 AM by GreatGodPan

Spooky.
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#50202 from Singapore from Singapore
A little trial-and-error should solve that problem. Eventually.

What the niconico douganites think of Look Before You Sleep
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#50203 from Northern Virginia from Northern Virginia
Dudes, look at this thing Sethisto got and Jayson will soon get, my signature is totally there at the bottom
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When All Else Fails, worry, that's the 14 way.
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#50204 from The Woods. Where else? from The Woods. Where else?
[up]What I got from that:

  • Japan really loves the letter 'w'.

  • Pretty much everyone all over the world agrees ponies are pretty damned adorable

  • MLP has Yuri subtext.

Not necessarily in that order.
Spooky.
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#50205 from Northern Virginia from Northern Virginia
[up]The person translating that used the letter "w" to replace the Japanese equivalent of "lol"
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When All Else Fails, worry, that's the 14 way.
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#50206 from Singapore from Singapore
On that first point, it's basically the JPN way of saying lolwwwwwww :V
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#50207 from Amsterdam from Amsterdam
*cracks knuckles* Oh it's been so long since I've gotten into a mukokuseki argument...

Well, if you are feeling like it, you might get into this one. All you have to do is state your stance on the issue and some arguments.
Calvin: I kind of resent the manufacturer's implicit assumption that this would amuse me.
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#50208 from Doesn't matter. from Doesn't matter.
Indeed, that particular bit of foreshadowing was a bit of a letdown. You got distracted?
I don't want to set the world on fire, baby. I love you too much. I just want to start a big, big flame in your heart.
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#50209 from Northern Virginia from Northern Virginia
@Kayeka, The arguement I have encountered before has been the allowance of unity among races so that we no longer see each other as different, bu one human race. Noble, but was pirposefullu ignoring the existence of everyone else. While it allows the distuishing between white and paler Asians to be negligible, it still involves pirposefullu ignoring and excluding every one else despite populating a larger percentage Of the planet. The concept implies a normality or a set standard as the majority and everyone else that didn't get their fan from being in the sun too long as an abnormality to take notice of as something completely different.

With my general methods I seek to avoid such creepy and monochromatic standardizations and instead allow for anyone to be anything without issue. Not only to further deconstruct the implications of play normitivity but to demonstrate you can be anything from anywhere and still be like everyone else, but with your exclusive features and origins, that a standard does not exist and it should not.

Mukokuseki is the artIstic equivalent of white washing, and it implies laziness to boot.

edited 6th Dec '11 7:21:48 AM by MousaThe14

I analyze "Geek Culture" here.

When All Else Fails, worry, that's the 14 way.
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#50210 from The Magitek Holyland from The Magitek Holyland
On the very old topic of Canterlot's society. We must remember that there were also perfectly normal ponies in the first episode. Remember? Moondancer's friends, who were inviting Twilight to come to her (presumably birthday) party?
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#50211 from Manehattan to Canterlot from Manehattan to Canterlot
[up] Thing is, I sort of picture Twilight (and her old classmates) as upper middle class at best, just below the high society ponies featured in The Best Night Ever and Sweet And Elite.
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#50212 from Meinong's jungle from Meinong's jungle
Eh, I've never been able to imagine Twilight as dark skinned; I've always imagined her as being really pale from never going outside. If I had to stamp an ethnicity on her, I'd probably make her Asian.
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#50213 from Aboard The Damocles from Aboard The Damocles
I never got the "Every member of the mane cast NEEDS to be of a different ethnicity" thing.

I natrually think of them all as white. Not because I'm TRYING to be racist, or because I think whites are superior, it's just how they've always looked inside my head.

Plus, different countries have different concentrations of races. I only know about 3 black people for instance. I don't think it's realistic to say that all fiendship circles end up having: A white, a black, a hispanic, an asian, and an indian in their ranks.

Maybe I'm wrong, but it's always bothered me slightly. I don't get Indian!Twilight at all.

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Tealove is best pony
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#50214 from Amsterdam from Amsterdam
My problem with such a philosophy is that it intentionally draws attention towards the race of a given character. Also, making sure that the cast is multi-coloured feels obligatory. The wrong kind of obligatory.

I believe that creativity shouldn't be influenced by such concerns. One should write/draw/whatever the they feel it makes sense. And to me, the very concept of race doesn't make sense. So yeah, I go with a certain 'default appearance' unless it makes sense not to do so, such as when said appearance would be a plot point.
Calvin: I kind of resent the manufacturer's implicit assumption that this would amuse me.
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#50215 from Meinong's jungle from Meinong's jungle
[up]That's pretty much how I feel about it. Doesn't help that all the characters are voiced by Caucasians, so of course that's what I'm going to imagine them as.
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#50216 from Aboard The Damocles from Aboard The Damocles
Just write what feels natrual.

The mane cast ALL being from different races doesn't make much logical sense to me. Throughout my entire life, I haven't seen a SINGLE friendship circle form like that natrually

edited 6th Dec '11 7:42:20 AM by gingerninja666

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Tealove is best pony
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#50217 from Amsterdam from Amsterdam
[up]That too, really. It's not the way it should be, but it is. Cultural backgrounds tend to do that.
Calvin: I kind of resent the manufacturer's implicit assumption that this would amuse me.
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#50218 from Manehattan to Canterlot from Manehattan to Canterlot
Well, I give reasons for why RD and possibly FS might be greek. Twilight could be anything. And the rest are different 'shades' of white.

Meh...each to their own I guess.
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Tealove is best pony.
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#50219 from Eastern US from Eastern US
That's basically my stance on it, as well; because they're all voiced by Caucasians and because I myself am white, that's my default. I personally don't care if your interpretation of human Dash is black; it makes as much sense to me as other character interpretations I've seen, so really, go wild. I do have to agree with Kayeka, though, that making a cast multi-ethnic/-cultural simply to do so - for example, let's use Muslim Fluttershy - feels like tokening, at least to me. The idea of linking a hijab to her shyness is really an interesting one, but it feels like quite a bit of a leap to make.

edited 6th Dec '11 7:49:28 AM by RedSavant

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#50220 from Manehattan to Canterlot from Manehattan to Canterlot
If Cree Summer was asked to voice a pony, what sort of pony do you like it to be?

Because I keep hearing the Lead Singer of my SP band speaking in her voice.

edited 6th Dec '11 7:54:50 AM by ApplelightLimited

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#50221 from Eastern US from Eastern US
^I've only ever heard her as Numbuh 5 (and maybe as Dulcie, though it's been nearly... oh, twelve years since I've seen that show), so my brain is full of Numbuh 5 Pony.
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#50222 from Aboard The Damocles from Aboard The Damocles
[up][up] Hmm, now you've got me imagining a ponified Cree Lincoln (Numbuh 5's big sister) and Valerie Gray [lol]

edited 6th Dec '11 7:57:11 AM by gingerninja666

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Tealove is best pony
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#50223 from Meinong's jungle from Meinong's jungle
[up][up]A Numbah 5 pony would be awesome.
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#50224 from Manehattan to Canterlot from Manehattan to Canterlot
Numba 5 was my favourite of the KND. And her sister was one of my favourite characters.

Numba 5 pony ftw.
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#50225 from Aboard The Damocles from Aboard The Damocles
What's the generic term for a young pony? (a name that ISN'T gender specific like Filly and Colt)

Is it foal?

wild mass guess The CMC join the Foals Next Door! wild mass guess
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Tealove is best pony