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d Roy avatar
#45651 from behind you from behind you
@Amish-Sorry. I hope I didn't offend anyone. sad

Huh, was there the Derpy in CMC?

This is the first time an episode annoyed me. So Rainbow Dash is the one who gave everyone their Cutie Marks?!

I'll have to call bullshit on this one.

edited 27th Nov '11 8:23:12 AM by dRoy

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Badwolfwho avatar
#45652
[up][up][up] Draco in Leather Pants.

[up] Because Rainbow Dash is best pony. Just flow with it.

I've also got a wonk about whether Nightmare Moon is Luna or not.

edited 27th Nov '11 8:24:58 AM by Badwolfwho

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thefran avatar
#45653
[up] NMM is Luna's persona, how is that hard to figure out? How is that poorly adressed anywhere?

edited 27th Nov '11 8:26:31 AM by thefran

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#45654 from Aboard The Damocles from Aboard The Damocles
@fran Giving a villain undeserved sympathy. Something I do a lot.

Nah, RD wasn't malicious in this episode, but she WAS being obnoxious, and if egotism of that calibre is left unchecked... well who knows how she'd eventually end up! Or how she'd react if someone else turned out to be the Mysterious Mare

[up] The issue is whether or not Luna was the one in control when she was acting as Nightmare Moon

edited 27th Nov '11 8:27:56 AM by gingerninja666

"Schneizel! So you ARE the puppet master behind all this!" - Lelouch Lamperouge

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Seraphem avatar
#45655 from Delamare from Delamare
why don't I have a wonk...Iwantoneiwantiwantone and i want it NNNHHHHHAAAAAWWWWW
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#45656 from behind you from behind you
I still kinda wish the Mysterious Mare was a Badass Earth Pony Normal.
Badwolfwho avatar
#45657
[up][up][up][up] I think Nightmare Moon and all of the choices she made and things she did is basically Luna. Others say it wasn't Luna's fault at all and she was corrupted by evil magic space miasma or something.

edited 27th Nov '11 8:29:03 AM by Badwolfwho

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#45658 from Aboard The Damocles from Aboard The Damocles
[up][up][up][up] because you're a good person who stays out of arguments? waii

Where's CROWFALL?! I miss him

edited 27th Nov '11 8:29:31 AM by gingerninja666

"Schneizel! So you ARE the puppet master behind all this!" - Lelouch Lamperouge

Tealove is best pony
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#45659 from Singapore from Singapore
It could be worse for Dashie, someone might write her a Demon in a Bottle ficlet based on this ep- ohshi it's gonna happen now I just know it.
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#45660 from behind you from behind you
I do prefer Discord to NMM. With big D, there was actually a sense of tension.
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#45661 from Singapore from Singapore
I recall some ancient discussion wherein someone equated Nightmare Moon to Luna rebelling in a gothy, temper-filled way, only Equestria'd get hit hard by the splash damage of her tantrum.
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#45662 from Delamare from Delamare
it's from people misinterpretation an early Word Of God, where Faust said she beleives there was an evil force responsible for Luna becoming NMM. one group decided that it meant she became possessed by that force and became NMM against her will and it was the evil that was in control.

Faust later clarified that she meant there was a force of some kinda that corrupted Luna into becomeing NMM, but it's was all Luna's decisions. kinda like Darth Vader, Palpatine was there in the background pushing Anakin into turning evil, but it was ultimately Anakin's choice to give into it. same for Luna, there was something driving her to turn evil, but she gave into it willingly.
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Mio avatar
#45663
[up][up][up][up]Demon in a Bottle? I'm not familiar with that stroyline, what is it about.

edited 27th Nov '11 8:34:36 AM by Mio

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#45664 from Singapore from Singapore
It's the classic Iron Man storyline wherein Tony gets alcoholism.
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#45665 from behind you from behind you
[up][up]From what I know, you basically take one Tony Stark, exaggerate his alcoholism to absurd proportions, and stir in a bottle of whiskey and mix.

edited 27th Nov '11 8:36:15 AM by mailedbypostman

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#45666 from Aboard The Damocles from Aboard The Damocles
I'm fine with most interpretations of NM, as long as she was PURELY the one to blame for what happened.

I don't like it when people try to shift the blame from her and play her up as some kind of victim
"Schneizel! So you ARE the puppet master behind all this!" - Lelouch Lamperouge

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#45667 from Singapore from Singapore
Luna chose to act on her anger. To a point, I believe somewhere inside she regretted her decision after having a thousand years to meditate on it on the moon.
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thefran avatar
#45668
it wasn't Luna's fault at all and she was corrupted by evil magic space miasma or something.
I am pretty sure it was both, like she was discorded or something.

She gave in to temptation, and then the temptation corrupted her. Otherwise it would have meant elements of harmony would be able to brainwash evil people into doing good things.

kinda like Darth Vader, Palpatine was there in the background pushing Anakin into turning evil, but it was ultimately Anakin's choice to give into it.
Kinda like the Devil if you think about it. I mean, exactly like the devil. Pride goeth before the fall.

edited 27th Nov '11 8:50:13 AM by thefran

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Rainbow avatar
#45669
Does anyone else think that Rainbow Dash has a similar personality to Tomo from Azumanga Daioh, only if Tomo actually had athletic ability to back up her bragging? (this is not meant to be an insult to Rainbow Dash, I like her in the same way I like Tomo—amusing to watch as a character but would NOT get along with either of them if they were real).
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thefran avatar
#45670
what our individual wonks are:
Inconsistency in aesop delivery and characterization. Acting OOC is perfectly fine if it's justified, but something like Fluttershy being not concerned with animals getting hurt is not.

Does anyone else think that Rainbow Dash has a similar personality to Tomo
Typical tomboys. Both of them. And a pretty realistic portrayal, actually.

edited 27th Nov '11 8:59:37 AM by thefran

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#45671 from Singapore from Singapore
She's a bit more like Kagura, then.

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edited 27th Nov '11 9:04:08 AM by AceOfScarabs

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#45672
@Ace: Maybe a cross between Kagura and Tomo, then? The main reason I thought of Tomo is because of Rainbow Dash being a prankster, and I don't really ever remember Kagura doing pranks much, if at all. Tomo teases people (mainly Chiyo) more which would also be like Dash.
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#45673 from Singapore from Singapore
Yeah, she channels both of them.

So who would win a dance-off, Pinkie Pie or Rainbow Dash?
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#45674 from Delamare from Delamare
best Scoota-chicken meme joke ever
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#45675 from Meinong's jungle from Meinong's jungle
Okay, this is going to be pretty massive, so just bear with me for a moment here:

  1. : I think this episode is the most jerkish Dash has been because it's the only one where she actually endangered others by stopping to do her catch phrase before doing the rescue; if the Mare Do Well hadn't shown up, somepony could have gotten hurt because of it. In Fall Weather Friends, the cheating didn't stand to hurt anypony, and in the race in the previous episode was purely voluntary. Yes, the gorge was dangerous, but the animals only had themselves to blame if they chose to take part.

  2. : I think Discord is a more effective villain than NM because he's actually successful to a degree; pretty much all of NMM's onscreen villainy failed. As for NMM's effect on the status quo: That's only because it was the pilot episode. It has to set the tone for the rest of the season.

  3. : Coming off of that point, regarding the whole Growing the Beard thing: It's not that people dislike the pilot, it's just that the later episodes are more character driven because they don't spent half their time introducing the cast. We get to see them just being themselves rather than watching the episode trying to summarize their characterization so quickly.

  4. : In response to the whole "Ponyville is OOC" thing, Pacific State wanted me to post his thoughts on the matter:

You think the New York of Marvel Comics feels anything like the real place? No, for the purpose of the story, we were in comicbook world. RD was basically Superman with the attitude of Darkwing Duck, and the Mare Do Well was Batman with Darkwing's design and a bit of the Phantom, who happened to the Legacy Character and whose mask was donned by many.

As for the rescue plots, the dam is from Green Lantern, the baby is from Power Rangers (it was the episode where Bulk and Skull started their Heel Face Turn), the cart (WHY DO PONIES RIDE IN A CART?) was from Superman (except it was a Jumbo jet, but ponies don't have that... yet) and the construction site collapsing was Spider-Man.

Plus, the events in this episode could have been spaced over months. It's just that each episode has one theme and as little continuity as possible and thus you don't get a series of subplots taking place simultaneously.

I think he's on to something with the superhero references, but I'm still not sold on the idea. Ponyville has been portrayed in a certain manner for pretty much the entire show, and this episode disregards a lot of it. I don't think being a Shout Out to something else really justifies changing the setting so much (if Twilight suddenly started acting like Tony Stark, it would still be OOC, regardless of whether it was an Iron Man reference), but if his list of ShoutOuts is accurate, it makes a bit more sense.

I feel like there was something else I was going to give my 2 cents on, but I can't remember what it was. Oh well, time for lunch.
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