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#306126 Japanese Teeth Tue, 20th Nov '12 10:14:49 AM from Meinong's jungle

I think we're going in circles, so I'm just going to leave at this: we have no hard evidence for whether or not the clones were indeed persons or not, so it's really up to personal interpretation. I believe in the value of life; no one is disputing that. We're just disputing whether the clones were, in fact, alive. And we have no argument either way for that other than headcanon.

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#306127 Kyler Thatch Tue, 20th Nov '12 10:16:22 AM from the event horizon

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#306128 Sereg Tue, 20th Nov '12 10:16:26 AM from South Africa

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Yeah, I prety much do. Well, I'm close to that at least. And I like it that way. As I said Fluttershy and I have a lot in common.

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#306129 Cookoo Tue, 20th Nov '12 10:23:35 AM from A Cuckoo clock

Honestly, I'me with sereg on this one. The Pinkie's could think. They were alive in my books.

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#306130 storyyeller Tue, 20th Nov '12 10:32:24 AM from Appleloosa

Zecora's trading card? lists her symbol as her cutie mark, so I guess it's All There in the Manual that it is a cutie mark?

Assuming you accept what the cards say. They do have several major mistakes.

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#306131 Some New Guy Tue, 20th Nov '12 10:33:02 AM

I think someone should look over the NF page. Its starting to look like the whole "banish the clones" scenes has gone from Fridge Horror speculation to outright demonization of Twilight.

Or maybe I'm jumping the gun, but that's what it looks like to me.

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#306132 Badwolfwho Tue, 20th Nov '12 10:33:13 AM from Stardust Road

And I don't buy the they're all alive in the pool thing. They weren't alive before they were cloned why would they stay alive when put back there?

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#306133 storyyeller Tue, 20th Nov '12 10:36:35 AM from Appleloosa

I too back the notion that they are just hollow, shallow, gooey magical constructs with only the surface personality of their parent.

I think it's also telling that they didn't freak out about the test like the real Pinkie did. Even faced with banishment, all they cared about was Fun Fun Fun.

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#306134 Applelight Limited Tue, 20th Nov '12 10:40:52 AM from Manehattan to Canterlot

Which makes you wonder how much regard the clones give to self preservation. In a darker setting, we may have had them getting into accidents.

edited 20th Nov '12 10:41:17 AM by ApplelightLimited

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#306135 Sydxelia Tue, 20th Nov '12 10:40:55 AM

I think we're going in circles

Agreed.

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#306136 storyyeller Tue, 20th Nov '12 10:43:17 AM from Appleloosa

In a darker setting, we may have had them getting into accidents.

They would have just flown back to the pool anyway.

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#306137 Perpetual Lurker Tue, 20th Nov '12 10:46:44 AM

@Bad

We were straight-up shown that they existed before climbing through the pool with that initial perspective shot.

#306138 Japanese Teeth Tue, 20th Nov '12 10:48:25 AM from Meinong's jungle

JAPANESE TEETH used SUBJECT CHANGE

So anyway, I am kinda curious about Zecora's pseudo cutie mark thing. It's not quite like a cutie mark in that it's a much for vague symbol rather than a picture of something. I kinda wish we had other zebras to compare to. It could be like a tribal or family indicator rather than a talent/specialty indicator. Especially given that the pattern appears to be part of her coat rather than an addition to it.

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#306139 osias Tue, 20th Nov '12 10:58:23 AM from Vitória, Capixabânia

I think we can call it a "cutie mark", even not being a "vocational indicative magical pony cutie mark"

#306140 Sereg Tue, 20th Nov '12 10:58:31 AM from South Africa

So anyway, I am kinda curious about Zecora's pseudo cutie mark thing. It's not quite like a cutie mark in that it's a much for vague symbol rather than a picture of something. I kinda wish we had other zebras to compare to. It could be like a tribal or family indicator rather than a talent/specialty indicator. Especially given that the pattern appears to be part of her coat rather than an addition to it.

I'm also interested in seeing other zebras to ompare to. But that art style is common here in Africa. It's a flower being swirled as if into a potion.

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#306141 Applelight Limited Tue, 20th Nov '12 10:58:39 AM from Manehattan to Canterlot

@ Story

That's how I see yeah.

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#306142 Badwolfwho Tue, 20th Nov '12 10:59:25 AM from Stardust Road

@ Lurker: No we weren't. If we were then they wouldn't look like Pinkie would they? Unless you're claiming that they don't actually make clones and just happen to look exactly like Pinkie?

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#306143 Sereg Tue, 20th Nov '12 11:07:14 AM from South Africa

Perpetual Lurker thinks that the pool summons AU!versions of Pinkie, but that makes no sense to me.

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#306144 Perpetual Lurker Tue, 20th Nov '12 11:07:25 AM

@Bad

Mirror universes, running synchronized with each other. Crossing the pool scrambles the mind. I'm just going by what we see, which is a Pinkie walk up to the pool, say the rhyme, climb through, and come out the other side with a severe case of memory loss.

#306145 Badwolfwho Tue, 20th Nov '12 11:13:22 AM from Stardust Road

So what you're saying is that the majority of this episode takes place in a different universe. I'm going to have to disagree with that and go with the simpler explanation that the show tells us of the pool makes clones.

edited 20th Nov '12 11:13:37 AM by Badwolfwho

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#306146 Japanese Teeth Tue, 20th Nov '12 11:14:27 AM from Meinong's jungle

The problem with the "mirror universe" theory is that if that were true there'd be no reason for all the Pinkies to be the same. Either that, or they'd be completely indistinguishable from the real Pinkie. Otherwise it means that Pinkie is exactly the same in every universe, except inexplicably the one the show is based in, which just sounds weird.

I'm sticking with my "magical construct" theory, and saying that particular shot was just Rule Of Cool.

edited 20th Nov '12 11:15:03 AM by JapaneseTeeth

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#306147 Perpetual Lurker Tue, 20th Nov '12 11:20:03 AM

I'm more inclined to think that the beginning of the episode takes place in an identical but separate universe rather than the majority of it.

#306148 storyyeller Tue, 20th Nov '12 11:20:45 AM from Appleloosa

JAPANESE TEETH used SUBJECT CHANGE

However, it was NOT TERRIBLY EFFECTIVE

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#306149 crowlover Tue, 20th Nov '12 11:21:16 AM from Name & Address Withheld

The SUBJECT CHANGE missed!

Either that or the thread has something like Shed Skin.

edited 20th Nov '12 11:22:01 AM by crowlover

#306150 Japanese Teeth Tue, 20th Nov '12 11:21:56 AM from Meinong's jungle

JAPANESE TEETH used FACEHOOF

JAPANESE TEETH is CONFUSED

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