Netflix is legal.

Because Netflix works better on dad's crappy internet than YouTube. Plus I'm using the Kindle app, so no need for Silverlight :P

edited 30th Jul '12 5:52:38 PM by Sixthhokage1

I guess this is a discussion better continued in the other thread.

Diamond Tiara is a good antagonist. If I knew someone like her in real life I'd want to slap her, but as a character I think she's used rather well.

The same could be said of Pinkie in A Friend In Deed.

Indeed. Ugh, I don't think I've ever been more annoyed with Pinkie than I was in that episode. Leave the poor ass alone.

"Donkey" is too highbrow, huh?

edited 30th Jul '12 6:11:23 PM by TheFreeman

I prefer the term plot.

I also found Pinkie's behavior intolerable in A Fi D. Not only did she invade his space, she repeatedly rifled through his belongings and refused to show any respect for his wishes at all.

edited 30th Jul '12 6:16:58 PM by Drenius

I have not seen AFID.

Going to watch it, be right back!

Yeah, that's part of the reason AFID is one of my least favorite episodes; Pinkie is so oblivious to how much she's annoying Cranky that it's almost out of character for her. She's usually pretty good at making everypony else happy, so seeing her be that insensitive was just weird. That said, the episode did have some good points. "Smile Smile Smile" being a good example. And most of the jokes in that episode were pretty good when Pinkie wasn't flagrantly invading his privacy.

edited 30th Jul '12 6:15:28 PM by JapaneseTeeth

Yeah, she was pretty bad, but that was the point. I felt that the episode did a pretty good job of elaborating on the fact that she very much can be annoying without realizing. There's a reason that RD was running away from her Griffin the Brush Off, and it's the same reason that she messed up at the Gala, too.

edited 30th Jul '12 6:19:08 PM by PerpetualLurker

Aside from Pinkie's slightly out-of-character blindness to his annoyance, I feel like AFID is one of my favorite Pinkie episodes. She really is sweet when she's not just a Looney Tunes cutout (like in "The Last Roundup", which handled her terribly).

But on the other hand, The Last Roundup led to the best witchraft episode.

It wouldn't have bugged me as much if it hadn't ended up working. As is, she basically just kept pressing and it ended up working out for her. It made the point of the episode less "some people need their space" and more "if you pester them long enough you'll eventually be able to make them like you". The episode actually points out that Pinkie is being overbearing, and then she just keeps acting the same way. If she had actually given Cranky his space and gotten on his good side that way, this would probably be one of my favorite episodes.

Also, I didn't think she was handled that badly in The Last Roundup because everyone reacted appropriately to her rambling.

edited 30th Jul '12 6:23:05 PM by JapaneseTeeth

"A Friend In Deed" basically made a Deconstruction out of Pinkie's Adult Child status...or is that Mare-Foal status?

I've always thought of Deconstruction as "play a trope so straight that you see realistic consequences, and the flaws in it". Oh, and if you don't like what you see, don't worry! They intentionally make it so that you don't like what you see...because if they didn't, you would get Misaimed Fandom!

Personally, I think Pinkie needs to grow up a little. As much as I like her, AFID and "Baby Cakes" made it clear that her immaturity causes problems at times!

I just hated how Pinkie tortured Applejack. It was a cruel invasion of privacy and almost made me ragequit the show.

Especially because my little sister is just like Pinkie Pie and has done that very thing to me (I still love her to death, though).

She did eventually realize exactly what she had done wrong, though, and was lucky that the last, completely harmless, thing she tried to make amends before leaving actually worked.

edited 30th Jul '12 6:25:43 PM by PerpetualLurker

Yeah, that rubbed me the wrong way too, although I was less mad at Pinkie (who was more or less oblivious to how annoying she was) and more at everyone else who were deliberately trying to annoy AJ into talking. Seriously ponies, respect her privacy.

Am I watching the same episode that you are talking about? Pinkie seems adorable and very kind so far.

-five minutes in.

Invasion of privacy? All she was doing was talking to her? If the 5 of them hadn't invaded her privacy, Applejack would have never come home. She was letting her stupid stubbornness override her regular personality, desperate measures needed to be taken to bring her back to herself.

Anyway, A Friend In Deed is one of my favorite episodes of Season 2, and was the episode that finally made me decide that I actually liked Pinkie. It's too bad it gets such a bad rep. Sure Pinkie was awful in it (she was supposed to be) sure the moral was bad (I don't care, personally) but it was funny as hell.

Yeah, that was sort of used to establish her normal behavior before she goes off the deep end.

The first five minutes is pretty much just Smile Smile Smile.

edited 30th Jul '12 6:32:23 PM by Bluespade

Wait, are you talking about "A Friend In Deed", ATC?

^Yeah, this. Applejack was casually (casually enough) discussing staying away from home for a year or two.

edited 30th Jul '12 6:32:10 PM by RedSavant

I agree that AJ's decision to abandon Ponyville for a while was a massive overreaction, but it doesn't justify their decision to basically try to force it out of her. Not to mention that she never really said how long she intended on staying away. She definitely needed a smack upside the head, but it just bugs me that her friends jump to trying to annoy her into submission when she clearly would rather not talk about it.

edited 30th Jul '12 6:38:27 PM by JapaneseTeeth

A Fi D was probably one of the few times I found Pinkie funny if only because she had a "straight man" to work off of. Still after ratcheting up the annoyance at the last part only for the conflict to be rather convinentley resolved left me rather disappointed.

It was a big error on her part to needlessly worry her friends and family out of her own pride. However her friends also approached it in a rather selfish fashion, wanting her to come home with and making her "confess" them rather then finding out what was actually wrong.

edited 30th Jul '12 6:39:31 PM by Mio

Exactly. I think there were problems on both sides. AJ was obviously being too stubborn about the whole deal, but I think everyone else should have taken a more subdued approach than "If you don't want to tell us we'll make you tell us". Like a "everybody in the town misses you and wants you to come back" type of thing.