Also, fun fact about The Walking Dead - as the game is connected to the internet, Telltale keeps track of the decisions you make and aggregates them with the decisions of other players. For example, 87% of players choose not to kill the cannibals.

@Waz: Alright, mind explaining then?

@Pannic: It probably won't be significant to you as you already don't like Littlepip, but we'll see.

@Orion: Still looks like a Double Standard to me.

@Perpetual Lurker: Because she killed them before she knew that. All she knew was that they were cannibals. There isn't even anything wrong with being a cannibal. There was no evidence that any of them had murdered anypony.

EDIT: As I said, I dislike the Always Chaotic Evil raiders. There are far better antagonists in the fic.

As for why it's a double standard, it's almost like saying that being human is bad and being a pony is good.

edited 24th Jul '12 7:37:09 AM by Sereg

Wikipedia does a pretty good job: "A double standard is the application of different sets of principles for similar situations, or to different people in the same situation". Since there's no standard to hold humanizations to, (personal appeal?), we can't compare them to other things. So no, Sereg, it's not a double standard. I'm taking up a different issue.

Orion's original statement was something along the lines of "why do some people like ponifications, but not humanizations?". Well, why do some people like the color green and hate the color red? They're both colors, aren't they? I mean, if you boil it down, ponifications and humanizations are both "from one creature to another", but liking one and disliking the other is not a double standard.

edited 24th Jul '12 7:44:33 AM by wazkatango

@Sereg IIRC, She walked into their hidden meat locker, and saw the corpse of the Unity priest that they had mentioned passing through earlier. She most certainly did know that they were murderers.

edited 24th Jul '12 7:40:47 AM by PerpetualLurker

I still have to read Fallout Equestria. Sooner or later I will, probably, but the sheer size intimidates me.

For me it's not double stander but reverse of most writers are human.

Yes I always like nonhuman over humans in any work with fantasy or SF elements.

edited 24th Jul '12 7:40:08 AM by DeathCloud

Sorry Waz, that just confused me even further. Mind putting it into Lay Pony terms?

It's a Double Standard because you're applying humanisation and ponification to different standards.

@Perpetual Lurker: Means nothing. I didn't even realise that they were murderers until much later. Having a corpse is not the same as commiting a murder. I believed that he died and they decided to use his corpse as is the intelligent thing to do.

Man, wouldn't that have been funny - Littlepip goes on a murder spree and oops, turns out they weren't mass-murderers. Shit.

@Sereg: Read my edit. And also, what are these "standards" you're talking about? Define them so I can see what you're talking about.

@Sereg And they just carved words into his skull because it was the right thing to do with his body? I thought the story made it quite clear that he was murdered, personally, and Littlepip reached that same conclusion. Of course, she still shouldn't have done what she did, but that's not what I'm arguing.

Well, obviously I won't like that part when I get to it. Still, nice to see that I'm not the only one that has a problem with it, as opposed to a certain individual in the Fallout Equestria who said something to the effect of "I don't see how anyone with any sense of morality could find anything wrong with what she did."

edited 24th Jul '12 7:49:32 AM by Pannic

Since I seem to be doing an excellent job of killing discussion, how about I start a new one?

Has anyone tried out Source Film Maker yet? I've tried to pose stuff in Garry's Mod plenty of times, but it's so frustrating that I give up. I've done a little bit of 3D animation before, so maybe it'd be worth giving SFM a try. I wanna make a Eppaljeck movie

I never said that. Don't put words in my mouth. You're also going from "personal dislike" to "morally unacceptable".

edited 24th Jul '12 8:14:19 AM by wazkatango

@Perpetual Lurker: "Dessecrating" a corpse isn't the same as murder either. I seriously didn't realise that they'd murdered him until much later. You don't kill someone unless you have very good reason to.

As for the Double Standard. No, because humanisations and ponifications are reverses of each other. You're saying that it's okay for humans to become ponies but not the other way around. Closest real life equivalent is saying that it's okay for one gender to be transgender but not hte other.

I tried Garry's Mod once, and succeeded spectacularly in creating absolutely nothing interesting. Something tells me I'd be be even worse at SFM.

edited 24th Jul '12 8:09:19 AM by edvedd

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In Japan, they use Miku Miku Dance and nowadays have access to the unofficial Kinect driver package.

In the US, they started with Machinima software and Gmod, then progressed to Source Film Maker.

Things to do: Complete that Dashie prototype plushie I wanted to make by cannibalizing a Sims 3 cushion. It's gonna be a little smaller and made of strips of cloth stitched together since the cushion was made from such narrow strips of cloth.

Now watching: Sonic Riders LP by the Great Clement. Hmmm, How would the Babylon Rogues be like ponified?

edited 24th Jul '12 8:14:34 AM by AceOfScarabs

Has the thread itself really gotten that bad?

"Oh look It's this topic again" seems more appropriate.

edited 24th Jul '12 8:13:05 AM by crowlover

Ya blew it, man.

edited 24th Jul '12 8:12:52 AM by edvedd

@Crow: I don't have a good macro for that on hand, so this was the next best thing. And of course I get ninja'd by somebody changing the subject... I would have used this my "THIS IS A STICKUP DROP THE TOPIC AND PUT YOUR HANDS UP", but I didn't have a topic to derail to.

edited 24th Jul '12 8:15:29 AM by JapaneseTeeth

@Sereg Well, I reached that conclusion right away, and I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree here.

edited 24th Jul '12 8:16:33 AM by PerpetualLurker

It's seems that whenever there's an argument to be had on this thread, I'm a part of it. If you don't want me talking, I'll shut up.

edited 24th Jul '12 8:16:04 AM by wazkatango

I'm now picturing Dashie bugging Twi and Applebloom into whipping up Extreme Gear for her so she can show Wave the Swallow how you race.

@wazkatango: I'm not saying that you specifically are saying that, but that saying that humanisations are bad but ponifications are good is the equivalent of saying that.

@Perpetual Lurker: I'm sure that any lawyer would agree with me, but okay.

EDIT: And I'm not asking anyone to shut up either.

edited 24th Jul '12 8:18:41 AM by Sereg