Well PHP is ok if all you want to do is generate some html, but it's horrible for actual programming.

What question?

What page that Baby Cakes aired on when you all were watching and commenting and crap.

Everything he does is Web based. If I learn something its probably going to be for just web based stuff as well. I have like zero ambition to do actual coding, I just want to maybe make my website pretty if I ever get my home business off the ground.

Well it's hard to get that just from a keyword search. I think the best option is to look up the air date and then jut look for that page.

For as much as you bash it, Story, PHP isn't broken. Suboptimal, maybe, but the fact that 90% of the internet runs on it has to say something. The main thing it has on Python is that it's a C-based language, meaning that its simply easier to use with, port to and from, and reconcile with most other popular programming languages. I hardly even had to learn anything to use it effectively, and simple common sense and self policing can keep the nastier things that it will let you do that you shouldn't be doing from happening.

Python is great, yeah, but web applications build off of eachother, and the fact that most existing systems are in PHP means that using PHP saves time when extending, modifying, or otherwise working with them. Python needs a larger instal base before it becomes cost effective for popular use.

edited 6th Jul '12 6:53:36 PM by PerpetualLurker

I've worked with a much more knowledgeable programmer than me, and even his PHP code had bugs, bugs that wouldn't happen in any decent language. And this was with a framework and security patches.

As for web development, I've heard Ruby is good though I haven't tried it. Other possibilities are Node.js and Django.

Thread Hop

how is everyone doing?

Also, the reason Im looking into learning some sort of language is that Im going to get my Master's degree in Laboratory Information Systems once I finish my Bachelor's program. I wanted to have a bit more computer background other than I can plug one in and make it do stuff.

I guess Python would probably be the better thing for me to learn in that case?

The last computer course I took was in 1995, and was for Basic, Lotus 123 and Word Perfect ... running from command lines on DOS.

Im old enough to have had a brand new Commodore 64

Only for really simple stuff. Try writing a loop that takes a callback which binds $this and you'll quickly see how much of a pain PHP is.

Evening everypony. What's going on?

We're arguing about PHP.

Well Im not arguing ... or not trying to. I live with someone who does PHP and is strongly biased towards it.

Im just looking for advice on what to look at if Im going into information systems for my Master's degree. I still have more than a year before the BS degree is done but Its never too early to start fiddling around.

@Story Why would you even want to do that in the first place? Unless I'm misunderstanding what you mean by "binding" $this.

What I mean is creating an anonymous function that has acess to $this. Trivial in other languages (that support closures), but PHP arbitrarily forces you to copy $this to some other variable before you can do this.

Also, the total word count up to page 9735 is 6079668.

It's up on Equestria Daily.

Ok so... you saw "Cadence" without the enhancements at first? I can barely see it with the enhancements!

I can't see it with the enhancements at all.

Its sort of under the No... I think... if Im seeing it right

I can't see it without the enhancements, but with them it's pretty easy to see.

I've started going through the thread from page one, and recording what page every episode first aired on.

currently on page 66

edited 6th Jul '12 7:14:23 PM by Blissey1

hello orion

Good luck with that Blissey

Hi Fallen.

Hi again. When is season three 3 rumoured to begin? It's around September right?

There was no real discussion until Feeling Pinkie Keen. In fact, you'll probably have trouble with most of season 1.