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gingerninja 666 avatar
#225601 from Aboard The Damocles
I still wish Spike could've gotten an element.

They should invent a 7th element... JUST for him. [lol]
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#225602 from Aboard The Damocles
@story

Not really an option, I love pretty much everything about it but him. [lol]
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#225603 from Over there. Maybe?
Human Twi ribbing Spike while drinking something.

Can't really come up with anything better.
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#225604 from a random Pokècenter
so, I've been watching the Persona 4 Endurance Run again, and I started wondering, what would the mane 6s shadows be?
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#225605 from Appleloosa
Sorry, can't help you there.
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#225606 from Singapore
Just read that fanfic about Twi and Dashie learning to fly with a Pommelhorse brand saddle. 'Twas good.
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#225607
@Blissey: Well, we've actually kind of SEEN their shadows.

Dash has some insecurities, so her shadow would probably be a coward, and rely on other ponies - Dash's inbred desire is likely to have a pony as loyal to her as she is to others, judging from how she reacts to be left alone. So her shadow desperately needs somepony to take care of it, and would likely cloy for attention, kinda similar to Yukiko's.

Fluttershy has a pretty seriously repressed mean streak, so that's easy enough to see coming out. Her shadow is more than likely Flutterbitch incarnate, tired of being a doormat and tells everypony exactly what she thinks of them.

Pinkie's shadow, similarly, is likely Pinkamena. At the same time, though, she's probably most similar to Naoto, or Kanji. She desperately wants someone to see, and accept, who she truly is. She's afraid all of her friends are superficial.

Rarity's is likely to do with a natural degree of selfishness. It's clearly something that she struggles with constantly, so her shadow is probably an abusive, selfish hoarder. She's probably a bit similar to Chie in that respect.

Twilight's is probably the trickiest to come up with. Her repressed feeling are probably very scientific ones; some degree of distance, perhaps the thought that her friends are for her letters first. Her shadow is probably very detached and callous, maybe even a bit haughty. She clearly is afraid of being seen as vain or arrogant.

As for AJ... she doesn't have a shadow.

No, seriously. she's the most stable of all of the ponies. She doesn't seem like she HAS anything to repress. If she does, though, it's perhaps the thought that she isn't good enough, and perhaps some longing to have her parents back. She may resent a childhood lost early to responsibility. But I honestly just don't see it from canon, really.
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#225608 from Singapore
AJ's potential shadow might have something to do with being truthful.
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#225609 from New York
If AJ doesn't have a shadow, then that would just leave her in the role of helping the rest of them overcome their shadows. Or rather, she'd take the role of the protagonist?

AJ's potential shadow might have something to do with being truthful.
Either that or letting everyone down. She gets pretty broken up about it in Last Roundup, remember?

All I could think of with Fluttershy's shadow would be a Bull-Pony. But then again, the appearance of the shadows has always jumped out at me more than solely what they represent.
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#225610 from Singapore
Well, she does have a bit of a hangup about doing her stubborn-most to live up to her claims/challenges.
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#225611 from Appleloosa
As for AJ... she doesn't have a shadow.

AJ's a vampire? No wonder Gigner likes her. Except that she's sort of a young vampire. Hmmmm.
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#225612
The shadow doesn't necessarily represent a fear. It's based on the Jungian concept of the Shadow Archetype, a set of repressed feelings. Someone may very well repress confidence and show fear, for example, thus the confidence becomes their shadow. so it's unlikely AJ's fear of letting other's down is her shadow, since she's open enough about the fear that we can't really claim she hides it behind confidence. She might hide it from others, but never from herself, which is what repression typically is.

And of course the shadows are always designed based on mythological creatures, which are fun to think of.
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#225613 from Texas
...but Ginger hates vampires. And yeah, I don't think AJ needs a shadow. The rest of those seemed pretty spot on.
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#225614 from The Magitek Holyland
Her greatest fear seems to be failing people, or failing to live up to her word. We all saw how badly she took the events of The Last Roundup, even though the others could see that what she had accomplished was impressive by itself. I do believe I remember thinking that it was a very good thing that she isn't a samurai or something.

Not having played persona, but knowing some stuff about it, I think that her Shadow would thus be something that wallows about in self-pity, denying the positive aspects of Applejack's personality, which is, of course, the determination and strength of will to strive for those lofty goals. That, and/or the shadow would symbolize her bullheadedness taken to an utter extreme.
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#225615 from New York
And yeah, I don't think AJ needs a shadow.
She might hide it from others, but never from herself
I don't see why she wouldn't have a shadow. Judging by how she acts, I would say she wouldn't have any trouble with her shadow. She would confront it and admit it fully without any conflict.

Bluh, I don't know enough about stuff like this to really explain things well or come up with ideas.

Also Enlong, you should totally find a way to give the games a try.
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#225616 from The Magitek Holyland
I mean, I own a PS2 that I got from a thrift store cheap, but it's completely borked. It just throws a disc read error at me. I'm going to try to get another from a different source (I wonder if any game stores still sell them?) and get Persona 4 when I do.
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Chadaman 99 avatar
#225617
Woah! This Google Chrome's amazing!
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Sixthhokage 1 avatar
#225618 from Texas
Firefox for the…

Nope. Not gonna finish it. Not after what happened last time. stupid cactus
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#225619
@Enlong: I had to order both my PS2 and the game online(I got the PS2 exclusively for Persona 4), but it's SO worth it. It's a phenomenal game, easily one of the best I've ever played.

your assessment of AJ's possible shadow doesn't really mesh, though. Here's a few examples(Spoilered, since you really should go in fresh)

Kanji tatsumi is a manly, tough guy. He's also gay. His shadow is extremely effeminate, a very steryotypical gay man. It rants and raves about how it just wants to do what it wants, and how it hates women and the like. It's partly Kanji's repressed sexuality, but it's mostly about the fact that he feels he needs to put on a front and act strong, and how he hates being forced to move away from part of what he is in order to embrace what he feels he should be. He wants to be strong, but he wants to be sensitive at the same time.

Chie is confidant, and protective of her Friend Yukiko. Her shadow is a domineering dominatrix, hellbent on keeping Yukiko under her thumb and joyful of the fact that she can do so. Chie is envious of Yukiko, and this manifests itself in her shadow in the desire to be better - so long as she can 'protect' Yukiko, that makes her better than her. Part of it lies in her personal insecurities, but interestingly it also has basis in her inherent desire to protect others. It's at the same time a band AND good element.

AJ's shadow being her feeling that she isn't good enough simply doesn't mesh because she's never demonstrated anything that would lead you to think she believes that. If she believed she wasn't good enough she wouldn't take on so much responsibility.

@Swas: Generally speaking if someone can confront their shadow easily, it's not really a shadow. She's likely to go the path of the protagonist, immediately finding her Persona. I mean, it's still very possible she has some degree of repressed feeling, but based on what we've seen in canon...

Interestingly, the second choice for protagonist is Rarity. In spite of her flaws, she shows some signs of knowing what she is, meaning she's actually partway through her 'arc' already. If nothing else she'd be the first to hit ultimate persona.

edited 15th Jun '12 10:33:36 PM by kegisak

Chadaman 99 avatar
#225620
This scene

I relate with Kanji the most. I went through a similar ordeal. However, shit hit the fan when Would hit a Girl came into effect.

edited 15th Jun '12 10:41:47 PM by Chadaman99

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#225621 from the corner of your eye
Is it really possible for someone to not have a shadow (that is, something about themselves that they repress)? Or could it be that there's just another facet of AJ's personality that the show hasn't explored yet?
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Chadaman 99 avatar
#225622
[up]The main character.
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Sixthhokage 1 avatar
#225623 from Texas
Night everypony, I'm going to bed. Have stuff to do tomorrow with Dad, don't want to be a tired grouch all day :P
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#225624 from a random Pokècenter
I'd think Pinkies shadow would be more like Chie's shadow. fear of rejection that gets played up into a commanding/domineering shadow. Kinda like Flutershy's "YOU ARE GOING TO LOVE ME!" played straight. I mean, we saw what happened to her when she did get rejected by her friends, afterall. You WILL go to shadow!Pinkie's parties and you WILL enjoy them! OR ELSE!
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#225625 from The Magitek Holyland
Well, it may not have been her repressing it personally, but in The Last Roundup, she did do everything in her power to prevent her friends and family learning of her (perceived) failure, to the point of deciding to not return home.

[up] Thing is, both times that we've seen a breakdown on Pinkie's part, she rather quickly flipped over to the extreme other end of things, and started to shun everyone else

edited 15th Jun '12 10:45:32 PM by Enlong

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