Valve's good, it's fact.

Little to a lot?

edited 6th Jun '12 9:37:26 PM by Chadaman99

From a designers standpoint, they sort of are. Not their games, but their corporate structure. Every game is a passion project because they let you work on what you want. You always have a say, because everyone is equal(though Gabe Newell is More Equal than you), you never have to worry about deadlines or executive meddling because they're rich and publish their own games...

From a consumers standpoint they make exceptional games but offer poor service for it, which makes them sort of mediocre as a company.

Oh no. Oh FUCK no. You don't get to pull card blanche here. Valve have an obligation to their fans. To the people who MADE them successful in the first place. It may not be a legal one, but in my opinion it's sure as fuck a moral one.

but then again, what the fuck do I know?

@Ginger: Gordon Freeman Forever.

(ahem)

ForEEEEEEEEEEverrrrrrrrrr.

Sorry, the ultra reverent way people talk about filmakers or companies just gets on my nerves something fierce.

You know, it's only been 5 years since Episode 2. I don't think we've quite hit Vapor Ware levels yet. You know what I've been waiting for? A revival of Marathon. I have been waiting for it for 16 years. And I know that Bungie is working on it, because their recently revealed contract with Activision specifically allocates 5% of their work force to work on it. I think I can wait a little while longer for Half-Life 3.

edited 6th Jun '12 9:41:22 PM by PerpetualLurker

Wouldn't mind a sequel to Yoshi's Story.

edited 6th Jun '12 9:42:28 PM by Chadaman99

Ginger, why you always gotta be the wet blanket around here?

The only developers I hold in such regard at the moment are Lord Miyamoto and God-Empress Lauren.

Oh no, don't get me wrong: Valve does let their fanbase down as far as time goes. They release a good product, and noone can deny them that. But it takes them way too fucking long to do it most of the time. At the very least, they shouldn't be announcing a project until it's very close to completion. I wouldn't necessarily say it's worth a lot of rage about - they do it to make the best possible product - but it's a valid issue with them.

I just saying that from an artists standpoint, they're THE company to work for. Nothing more.

@Chad: Oooh, that was a fun game. I remember that one.

edited 6th Jun '12 9:42:59 PM by kegisak

@Kyler because I HATE perfection. I despise it. NOTHING deserves to be perfect. NOTHING deserves to be the best. and when I hear everyone talking like Valve are physically incapable of doing wrong it just....fffffffff... nnnghh, cloys at me.

now, I love their games, I just can't stand their structure, personally.

Valve is saving Half-Life 3 for when either Microsoft or Sony drop out of the console wars to fill in the vacuum with their own system and use HL 3 was their launch title AND killer app.

I like Portal.

Never got the Black and White Yoshi?

That and their explosion size was larger.

edited 6th Jun '12 9:47:43 PM by Chadaman99

Yoshis story was adorable. Even if I never was very good at it. I loved the artstyle.

I vaguely remember black and white yoshis...they could eat chili peppers or something?

edited 6th Jun '12 9:47:05 PM by Blissey1

Actually, to anyone here who is a fan of the FPS genre, or just likes to see important parts of video game history in general, you need to play Marathon. All three of them. They're free for nearly every platform known to man, and the fact that they were made made in the mid-90's means that your computer's specs shouldn't matter in the least, so there is no excuse not to. It's probably one of the first FPS games to feature a fully realized plot, with characters that had personalities vibrant enough to be carried by simple text in terminals, to boot. Not to mention that it invented a lot of the FPS concepts that Halo is usually credited with popularizing.

edited 6th Jun '12 9:47:50 PM by PerpetualLurker

They should play Doom, the one that defined the shooters.

@Lurker ehhhhhhhhh, I dunno

edited 6th Jun '12 9:49:29 PM by gingerninja666

Do you remember Poseidon pretending to swim while standing in front of an aquarium?

Doom was fine and revolutionary, but Marathon did everything Doom did, but better, in addition to continuing to innovate.

edited 6th Jun '12 9:54:09 PM by PerpetualLurker

Watching Rainbow Dash Presents: Cupcakes. Nice gorilla suit Rainbow.

Time for Half Life Infinity! And what did the pendant do? I've never seen the movie.

uh...isn't that kinda the point of a game being revolutionary? That nearly all games that come after it in that genre use things from it?

you can't just dismiss doom like that because marathon came later on.

edited 6th Jun '12 9:55:46 PM by Blissey1

I've got to admit this would be better if Pinkie sounded less retarded.

Lol, she's still Gorilla Dash.

Saw that one last night.

edited 6th Jun '12 9:54:39 PM by Bluespade

I can safely say that I don't like Doom

are you alone in Marathon?

Captain Hook is definitely the best.