Oh it dos Apple Bloom

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Oh, I mean LITTLE STRONGHEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTT!!!

edited 19th Sep '11 7:04:13 PM by takashi.0

Come on, you've only been gone a day. That could easily be explained by sleep or work or school or something. I've vanished for days at a time without comment. And, to be honest, you were being annoyingly cynical yesterday. I figured you were having a really shitty day or something.

edited 19th Sep '11 7:07:43 PM by Crowfall

No just yesterday I'm always cynical

I'm not a big fan of Rarity or Rainbow Dash myself, but I admit both of them have grown on me a bit. Rarity is especially hard to write for because it's too easy to Flanderize her into a stereotypical golddigger.

And Applejack's a workaholic, that's why we don't see her with much leisure time.

—R.J.

It's funny that people mentioned Rarity's personality going to opposite extremes, because I was thinking the other week that what really distinguishes Rarity from Pinkie Pie is that while Pinkie Pie just wants everyone to get along and gives people the benefit of the doubt, Rarity is more self-conscious and openly ego-driven, and she's much more likely to take things too personally. So on the one hand, being rejected by just one fashion expert is enough to send Rarity into self-exile, while on the other hand, compliments like those she received on her wings will really go to her head. Then you have Rarity seeing a stranger's fashion disaster as her personal responsibility to correct, and you have Rarity getting into tiffs with Applejack because she sees Applejack's straightforward approach as a personal insult to Rarity's artistic style.

But Rarity can also be flexible about this. "A Dog and Pony Show" had Rarity exaggerating this side of herself to make her look like more trouble to the Diamond Dogs than she was worth, while in "The Best Night Ever" Rarity demonstrated remarkable self-restraint in allowing the prince to definitively prove he had a low opinion of her first.

I think I heard it meant "breaking the fourth wall", though what it reminded me of just now was Pinkie's rant from "Party of One" where she said "kicked me out of the group" and did a jump-kick to illustrate it. I guess the pony who loves to talk also practices plenty of pantomime in case she ever loses her voice.

Yeah so easy, Discord didn't need to try that hard with her.

While I understand everyone's eternal fascination with Rarity and Rainbow Dash, Twilight and Spike will always be my favorites.

I think Bridle Gossip definitely proved pinkie's 1337 pantomime skills.

edited 19th Sep '11 7:49:36 PM by MousaThe14

Those two are my favorite too. I love Twilight's analytical outlook on a world filled with magic and impossibiliy and I've always liked animals and can be awkward around people so I empathize with Fluttershy too. That said Rarity is my third favorite pony despite the fact that I don't give a damn about fashion. The idea that she's got layers beyond what we'd expect of her character type is something that interests me.

^^Rarity was the only one who even tried to break away from the mind control, remember. =) I think that stems from the nature of her Element; all the others were easy to play against (except for Fluttershy's). Discord mostly just undermined the girls' own expectations: Applejack expected to be told the truth, so she fell for the lie more easily. Dash's loyalty to her hometown overrode her loyalty to her friends with Discord's thumb on the scales. Thing is, there's really no way to subvert kindness like that, and given Fluttershy's personality, even trying to convince her that her friends were taking unfair advantage of her wouldn't work. So Discord just zapped her.

As for Rarity... again, there's no real way to subvert generosity, unless you make it into a 'doing good for recognition and self-esteem' sort of generosity, which would have limited application in a hedge maze.

Oh, and one other thing: I realized why we didn't get Pinkamina back when Pinkie was zapped. Pinkamina is Null-Pinkie, while Antie Pie is, well, anti-Pinkie.

edited 19th Sep '11 7:59:45 PM by RedSavant

I agree there is a lot of charm on fluttershy and twilight's awkwardness.

oops... I was expeting to get ninjaed

I think that a part of Discord's spell was warping their perception of reality.

edited 19th Sep '11 8:10:45 PM by FallenLegend

I still think that the reason Pinkie didn't revert to Pinkamena mode is because Twilight isn't supposed to be able to tell that she's different.

Yeah I would be very surprised if twilight couldn't notice their greyness. S He is the smartest after all.

edited 19th Sep '11 8:13:47 PM by FallenLegend

Rule of Perception. The audience can tell, but Twilight probably can't.

The whole straight haired Pinkie was probably never intended as anything other than a one off gag anyway. Calling her Pinkamina and assuming that she always goes straight haired when depressed is mostly fanon, so it isn't surprising that it doesn't happen in an episode that doesn't really revolve around her.

Explain the Rock Farm episode then.

^^I wouldn't call a whole episode (and one with backup, thanks, takashi) a one-off gag. It makes sense logically (inasmuch as 'a rainbow-colored sonic boom made a pink rock-farming pony cheerful' makes logical sense); I don't think Pinkamina is an alternate personality or any of that other fanon; she's just sad and lonely Pinkie.

Well, uh, you see, it's um...

It just is, okay! Arrivederci!

part of me thinks Pinkie pie made up the whole rock thing

The only part of her backstory I believe is that the sonic rainboom inspired her to throw a party for her family. The rest I'm pretty skeptical about.

Well then, Mr/Ms. Skeptic-Pants/Hat, tell me this:

If Pinkie didn't grow up on a rock farm...

THEN WHO DID?

GRAYIE PIE DID.

Egad! You've seen right through my skeptical sophistry!

Gah.

Grr.

edited 19th Sep '11 10:43:57 PM by edvedd

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