Are there any pictures for it?

There are probably a grand total of one picture.

also Lyra is a pretty popular character, s o you gotta assume she's gunna get tags.

Edit: Oh, it's a page topper.

edited 31st Aug '11 7:19:31 PM by tectonicRobot

Three, actually, but two of them are slight variations of the same thing. Keanu Reeves is involved.

So I read the latest chapter to Estrella Noctis... Let's just say this...

I honestly didn't think the transition from Pinkie to Pinkamena would be this creepy... boy, was I wrong!

I'm not gonna lie, the one with the Scootachicken made me lol.

"So, recently Past Sins was finally finished.

Seeing as it has somehow become so critally acclaimed that some over-eager have called it better than canon and demmanded a movie made out of it, I have to ask: am I the only one who thinks it's a overly-predictable, idoit ball filled disaster? "

Didn't think it was that bad. There were a lot of cute moments and a few scenes were pretty fun (Rarity teaching Nyx how to drink tea for instance), but once the plot kicked in, it sorta went downhill in zerky's opinion. The plot was, like you said, pretty predictable ( Especially the end, where Luna took away most of Nyx's abilities/memory/age and then turned her back into kidNyx. The *exact* same ending was used in Creeping Darkness, another fic by the same author.) and there were a few plot holes/idiot balls that could have been handled better. There were also a ton of typos and some of the grammar was a little off, which normally zerky wouldn't comment upon, but there were apparently at least 6 people reading it over and checking for that sort of thing, which makes it a little more egregious.

It was still definitely better than 90% of the stuff out there, although at least in zerky's mind, it would have been best off as a Slice of Life sort of dealio with just enough plot to keep the story moving.

edited 31st Aug '11 7:52:39 PM by zerky

Right, who's got the shot glasses? (kidding)

Is it ever possible to watch at least one episode of this show and dislike it? Everyone I've known who has watched this show have become fans of it, and all of the haters who complain about this show probably haven't watched it at all.

I'm sure it's possible, man, and I don't think that all the ones who hate it have never seen it. On the extreme end, there's this one guy who has claimed to have seen the entire first season three times, to better understand his "enemies".

It is, in fact, very possible. You can't please everyone, after all. Trying to assert otherwise would be a case of Fan Myopia.

Zerky, you seem pretty knowledgeable. Have you ever read Mort Takes a Holiday? I would like to hear you opinion on that one.

edited 31st Aug '11 8:11:31 PM by tectonicRobot

@Wolf Man: I've seen a couple reactions from people who watch it that are basically "It's alright, but I still don't understand why it's so hugely popular."

Yeah Even the awesomes of MLP can't please anyone.

edited 31st Aug '11 8:55:20 PM by FallenLegend

Read the first two or perhaps three chapters, but not really enough to give a proper opinion about it other than "it seemed pretty good, where's it going next?".

Hey now... it has 26 different episodes, you gotta expect at least a few of them to be worse than others. I don't very much care for ones starring the Cutie Mark Crusaders. They seem very unnecessarily cute- I mean, we already have the mane six!

That's one(OF MANY)key factors I fear, if left unchecked, could be the series' downfall!

Either give those 3 idiots their cutie marks and make them background side-orders (That's all they'll end up being once they get them anyway, as I'm sure (AND WE SHOULD ALL BE AWARE OF BY NOW) that they're just Executive Mandates the creators had to put in the show for greedy-ass sounding reasons), or risk having them become the "D.W.-class"(Scrappys)characters in a series that doesn't need nor call for it!

Other than that, here's to Season 2 hopefully not sucking without its true creator...

edited 31st Aug '11 9:01:46 PM by S5

I think they kept them in the show because they were named off of canon characters from the previous generations of figurines. And Lauren, I suppose, is too much of a filly to resist. But the only episode they starred in that I enjoyed was "The Cutie Mark Chronicles", and that's because they only appeared in the framing devices around the mane sixes' back stories.

edited 31st Aug '11 9:04:08 PM by Shota

^To each their own, of course, but I don't think they're that bad. Obliviousness aside, they're pretty cute, and they make an interesting contrast to the main six.

edited 31st Aug '11 9:18:10 PM by RedSavant

THIS. That's what made them tolerable. They were just framing devices. But also, they were in a position wher they actually learned some shit instead of acting like dumbasses and nearly dragging the show down arounds them, not just the episodes they were in where they did do that, in the episodes they starred in. Neither of which were that good, sadly. I almost thought these three were going to be this show's downfall - and worse still, they STILL could be if not given a direction to go in, other than an obsessive one over something that takes age and skills to obtain in their world!

Not to mention, they have yet to prove themselves in a positive light as characters worth giving a damn about, which is even worse.

Without the right writers or motivations for them, they'll end up too pathetic to root for, or worse, SCRAPPYS. Scrappys on a show that does not need to be weighed down by such BS.

I know they're kids, but come on. Give me a goddamn show where the kid(s) is actually smart enough to not act this stupid for something he/she needs to earn through actual aging, practice, skill acquirement, and above all else, experience, PLEASE!

Thank you.

edited 31st Aug '11 9:24:35 PM by S5

If we're taking a 'come on guys, these characters are obviously Executive Meddling personified' stance on it, you should probably just go ahead and apply that to the whole show. Whatever the creative team* Lauren Faust didn't do the whole thing herself, you know! feels about the show as a whole, it's a commercial enterprise designed to sell toys from a strictly corporate view, so there's no reason singling out one subset of characters or another if you're taking that stance.

^I'm not agreeing with you, to be honest. I like the CMC for their own sakes, and I hope they get a few more episodes of character development that actually sticks.

Don't agree with me. My opinion was meant to be a challenge anyway. However, I wasn't taking any kind of stance on Executive meddling. At all. As for the CMC, with some improved focus on them, I'm sure the CMC could be likable characters worth rooting for.

But I'll agree with you on that - The CMC need development that sticks. Development that will actually make me like them more than I do now...

edited 31st Aug '11 9:23:23 PM by S5

^

That aside, though, it seems we basically agree where they should go, if from different sides of liking them currently. =)

I don't mind the CMC that much either. To be honest, the Cutie Mark Chronicles isn't really one of my favorite episodes. Other than Twilight's and Pinkie Pie's, I didn't find the flashbacks all that interesting because they were a Foregone Conclusion. Those two were the only ones where we really got information about the characters that we didn't already know.

I can see how some people might be annoyed by the CM Cs, but they really don't grate on me too much. And yes, they need some genuine development. You can only ride out the "attempts to gain Cutie Marks" plot so many times before you need to mix it up a little. An interesting idea that I heard once was to give one of the CMC's their cutie mark and see how it affects their friendship. Would be a step up from "random CMC shenanigans".

edited 31st Aug '11 9:45:20 PM by JapaneseTeeth

I actually like all the CMC episodes so far, but I agree that their shtick will get old quick if they don't start learning anything. They seem to work best when not pursuing their cutie marks, my favorite moments from them are when they are just being themselves, not trying something ridiculous.

^Well, there's your stealth aesop right there!

So what do you think the chances are that one or more of the CMC will get a cutiemark by the end of Season II: Electric Boogaloo?