Y'see, here's the slight problem I have with people instantly jumping on "stage magician."

By all indications in the dialogue, she's just a unicorn who's prancing about proclaiming herself better. I think there's a fair amount of taking the aesthetic of the stage magician and taking that to mean, at face value, "oh, she's a stage magician."

I know the last time I did this someone jumped on me for "claiming that the stage magician isn't a stage magician, " but look at it this way - the show uses the aesthetic and the trappings of the stage show - someone pretends to do magic, but they really aren't, as a sort of foreshadowing - Trixie is claiming to be an immensely powerful magic-user, but she isn't. Just a bunch of pyrotechnics.

If she was just being presented as a stage magician, it wouldn't be pushing the idea that she was a fraud (and the episode does push that).

Like I said - Harold Hill.

edited 8th Jul '11 12:43:06 AM by Pannic

It isn't like you need a permit or something to be a magician. She has a stage, and she's performing magic for a crowd. All her dialogue is what you'd expect from a magician ("come one, come all, come and witness the amazing magic" etc.) Even if she is doing it solely for the attention, that doesn't make her not a magician. It isn't like they're immune to being egotistical. Hell, Chris Angel gives me the impression that he's more stuck up his own ass than Trixie could ever be.

-you are once again picturing Trixie floating above a crowd while waggling her fore-hooves and saying 'MINDFREAK'-

I actually rather dislike Chris Angel.

I found a REALLY terrific spanish fansub of the first episode! And the adaptation was really good! The only weird(Not bad just weird) that it Translated Big (Gran) Machintosh, Granny(Abuela) Smith and these are apple names and no one else got their name translated, only explained in a Translation Note Except Rainbow Dash, Rarity and Pinkie Pie whose names were not explained (Rainbow=Arcoiris Dash=Impulso Rarity=Rareza Pinkie=Rosita).Oh and the Wonderbolts (Relampagos, This one is a Woolseysm, correctly said it would be Relampagos Maravilla).

Oh and it handled Everypony and Anypony satisfactorily, too!

edited 8th Jul '11 1:36:28 AM by CocoNatts

Deep down, we all know that this is how the show will end.◊

A family portrait◊

Thats kind of translation what I hate, but because I don't speak spanish so I don't care.

Oh no, humanisation abonimation.

Wait, what? Are human ponies bad now? Did I miss a memo?

edited 8th Jul '11 3:27:30 AM by edvedd

Some people dislike humanisation intensely. It seems to not catch as much flack as anthropomorphication (you know, just gaining a humanoid shape).

The only thing I have against it is that so many people are doing it, really.

Well Gee, I just posted those cause I thought they were really good.

That was allways bad thing, but if you whant post it just warn it have humanisation and it will be fine (nobrony will see if don't whant).

Anthropomorphication may be even worse (because of adding boobs to animals).

I don't see why it should be necessary to warn if you're linking human versions of the cast. It's not like the pictures are violent, vulgar, NSFW or generally offensive. If the picture does happen to be one of the above than yes, warn, but if human versions of the characters offend you to the point where you absolutely can't stand to see it than you seriously need to lighten up.

Pity, some of the fanart with human versions are AWESOME. http://hermiethefrog.deviantart.com/favourites/44676659?offset=72#/d3jdrf1 http://hermiethefrog.deviantart.com/favourites/44676659?offset=72#/d3i0nxa http://hermiethefrog.deviantart.com/favourites/44676659?offset=48#/d3j579s

edited 8th Jul '11 3:51:05 AM by Hermiethefrog

Wow, I'm like the only guy who likes Gilda, she didn't seem THAT bad. She did do the worst things but she was the only one with any kind of redeeming features (she actually does consider RD a good friend, and she did seem genuinely hurt when she turned on her) I honestly don't mind the accent

Trixie's just entertaining and she did try to help out with the ursa minor (although that was probably just her trying to defend her image)

I'm still always surprised whenever I see human fluttershy. To me yellow is such a dominating colour and when I picture her all I think of is yellow, so seeing her with pink hair (I know that's her mane colour) and no yellow on her at all is kinda weird

No of this postefd fan arts look good, they even look ugly. Only good one fanart of this type was done in Adventure Time stile.

She was least likeable characters from or jerks (including Silver Spoon & Diamond Tiara). Even her relations with RD are not redeeming feature (she acts like Rainbow was her possesion and nobody could come close to it). Horever I'm OK with way she speak.

I don't really have an opinion on the second set of humanized fanart; I liked delinquent!Rarity, though, but that was the only part that I did like.

^How much you like Gilda really depends on whether you view her behavior as immature and jealous or knowingly possessive, I think. She's a huge jerk in ways that don't have anything to do with Rainbow Dash, but I suppose it all depends on whether her attempted redemption was due to her actually having something to redeem inside her or just an attempt made for the episode's Aesop.

I don't whant to see Gilda redemption episode. This show and RD do not need her. We have Spitfire who is similar but minus part making her unlikeable (and she is pony but being griphon wasn't problem).

Death Cloud.... Could you elaborate? What do you hate about translations like the one I told you about?

^^Spitfire's not anything like Gilda, not really. And I'm not saying Gilda should become a permanent member of the cast, either; she just has potential to become better than she was, like Trixie (who should also perhaps make a return in S2). We'll find out... but I do want to write that fic, I think. Maybe.

I think Gilda should at least leave RD on good terms. Even if they don't become friends again, Gilda does care for RD (even if it's mostly posessive) That's a trait none of the other jerks in this show have, and they do seem to have fun when their together

Sure gilda and Trixie were mean. But they weren't true villains. They are just low rate bullies that never got to repent.No one is perfect after all.

Now Nightmaremoon ... She was about to starve all equestria to death. Now that is evil in my book and even then...

edited 8th Jul '11 6:17:16 AM by FallenLegend

Yes, but Nightmare Moon received her computtance

Exactly. If The Power of Friendship can forgive and redeem a mass murderer. I don't sew why gilda and Trixie can't be redeemed as well.

edited 8th Jul '11 6:24:52 AM by FallenLegend

and it's been stated that something else MADE Luna evil

Nope she was corrupted (there is a difference). She wasn't entirely acting on her free will. But she wasn't being brainwashed or "obligated"

Point is that we haven't seen a true villain / Compete Monster yet (if ever)

edited 8th Jul '11 6:30:32 AM by FallenLegend

Wait, mass murderer? Explain that. I don't think we even hear anyone say the word die, much less actually see anyone bite it.