So you touching every anoying stuff what been discused in fandom?

CM are not thing that anypony is forced to have. Part of geting CM is liking doing thing. And CM is not only thing that anypony can do.

edited 7th Jul '11 2:51:00 PM by DeathCloud

The main Message this show has is that friendship is magic anything else is either secondary or overthingking it.

The socialism/political stuff is pretty much over thinking this.

edited 7th Jul '11 2:57:26 PM by FallenLegend

I like doing that. It shows just how easy it is to sound as if you're implying something you're not, and in some cases it's unavoidable.

As for the CM thing, I think that has potential for some drama. Angst over finding your place in society. I think it ought to be worked into the show in the form of the CMC. Maybe one of them gets a mark, but doesn't like the job it bequeaths them? There is a lot of potential in that. It has already been established there is prejudice against those who don't receive one, imagine what a social aberration it must be to have received one and not going along with it.

You sound like that guy from Sexism video.

And CM don't force anypony to any job. If anypony get CM related job it will be dream job.

I'm not sure that that would really work, as you can only get the CM when you find the thing in life that you enjoy. That's part of why the CMC continue to fail (other than the fact that if they succeeded, their niche in the show would disappear); they're just trying all sorts of random stuff rather than just stopping to think "I like doing this, and I'm good at it".

I think the real drama potential here is if one of the CMC got their cutie mark, but the others didn't. It would be an interesting way to drive a wedge into the group.

Also, I really don't know whether an overarching plot is a good idea. On one hand, I like the show the way it is, but then again there's a lot of potential for Character Development. As long as they don't through the characterization and humor under the bus I don't see a problem with it.

I prefer slice of life too. But having adventures once in a while wouldn't hurt

Well yes, I once said The Smurfs was a perfect model of an communist sovietic village too. But it would be hard pressed to say that the author wanted to carry this message... and so for the ponies.

Juste watched two more episode. I try to pin-point exactly what's attracting me to the show... Well, the animation is gorgeous for a vector-based look, that's for sure. Moves are smooth, natural, there's always something moving in the background. Definitively a plus.

Second, characters have really defined profiles and attitudes. It's really easy to pick your favourite one right from the beginning. I'm affraid they would become very one-sided and flat, but so far it's okay. And even with those almost caricatural personnalities, watching them interact is never tedious or phoned-in.

I don't know, honestly. Plots are pretty much easy to read, it could predict the end of the episode after a few minutes only; conflicts are so generic and obvious anyone could see. Yet, I still want to see what's next. I'm enjoying this far more than I should do.

I think I should watch a few more episodes to understand it more... Maybe I'll take notes.

It's interesting to speculate, but no one is 'assigned' a cutie mark that they don't like. It's finding out what you love to do, your calling, so to speak, that triggers your cutie mark. As far as we know, they don't have any influence on what ponies like to do; the calling causes the cutie mark, not the other way around.

Still, I do expect an episode on one of the Crusaders getting her mark and making the other two jealous in S2.

edited 7th Jul '11 3:14:47 PM by RedSavant

No prob over thinking. But my advice is never to expect the worse

edited 7th Jul '11 3:18:01 PM by FallenLegend

x 10 You can count me among those who wouldn't mind if the show takes a more "adventurous" direction. I always felt that the characters and the setting were flexible enough to accommodate all kinds of stories.

That being said I don't get where people are getting that the second season will have more of those elements. The only thing that even hinted at that was that there were going to be villains in season two.

edited 7th Jul '11 3:17:10 PM by Mio

So that means that almost everybody is set in stone in terms of what they want to do for the rest of their lives while they're still in school? Seriously? Applebloom's classmates all have theirs, so that's what it must mean. I don't think you can know what you want to do at that young an age.

edited 7th Jul '11 3:20:03 PM by Gault

Rarity had very clear that she wanted to be a fashioista at that age...

edited 7th Jul '11 3:22:33 PM by FallenLegend

@talden: In terms of the obvious plotting, keep in mind the primary audience. Most of us know what's going to happen from miles away because we're all Genre Savvy tropers. The show is geared towards children who don't have nearly that ability to see what's coming.

The thing is, the cutie mark is the result of figuring out one's calling in life, not the cause. It's not like you randomly get assigned one. The cutie mark doesn't appear unless you already know what you want to do. It's impossible to get stuck with one that you don't want. The other thing is that the cuties marks are usually generic enough that they could apply to several "callings". It's not like they get labelled with a specific job; just a general area. The other other thing is that horses in Equestria obviously develop differently than humans do. Maybe they figure out their lives faster.

edited 7th Jul '11 3:26:44 PM by JapaneseTeeth

^^There's a reason everypony always tells the Crusaders that it's alright to wait and find out. And it can be very loose, it seems; all the Apple clan ponies have apple variants, but they all do a lot more than just buck apples and make pies. It seems to indicate the core of your personality more than it does your future profession, in truth. I mean, Pinkie's a baker, but her core is fun.

^Exactly. It's not like you're assigned a job in elementary school; it is that you discover what you truly want to do for the rest of your life.

edited 7th Jul '11 3:28:29 PM by RedSavant

Basically the point I was getting at. I mean, look at the cutie marks of the mane cast. They're more personality based than "this is your specific calling".

Yeah , sure , everypony predict ending of Gala episode or Pinkie breakdown from Party of One.

P Onies are not human. And CM is open to intrepretation.

I wonder if there's a scientific term for CMs that biologists use so that they don't sound stupid.

It's tough to have a serious scientific debate where the words 'Cutie Mark' are being used repeatedly.

Not the exact ending, but it was pretty easy to see that the Gala was going the route of "they're going to realize that it would have only been fun if they were with each other", and Party of One was pretty obviously "they have a good reason for avoiding Pinkie Pie and she should have trusted her friends"

Although It's just a blanket statement anyway. I really don't think most of the plots themselves are predictable, just that is isn't that tough to figure out "oh, this episode is going to be about (moral lesson)". And even then, there are quite a few exceptions.

EDIT: This is a thread about a children's tv show where we use phrases like "everypony" and "mane cast" in complete seriousness. At this point I just sort of lean back and treat the serious debates about Cutie Marks as absurdist comedy.

edited 7th Jul '11 3:35:02 PM by JapaneseTeeth

Scientific term for magical thing?

edited 7th Jul '11 3:35:03 PM by DeathCloud

Some people say you can identify a person's personality from a very young age, but even if not, remember, these are PONIES. Is it really that small a fraction of their life? Or a larger portion of a shorter life? (Celestia aside, she is immortal or something!).

Very good points. Alright, you have swayed me. C Ms are more descriptions of the general area of one's future profession.

Going off the lifespans and such for ponies in real life, apparently Applebloom and the other Crusaders would be around two, while Twilight and the rest of the mane cast are between four and five, or so I think was the opinion stated.

General opinions is that Ponies have similar lifespan to us. But I prefer version that they have longer lifes than humans.

My point is that episodes are not predictable most of them subvert tipical girly shows plots. Lessons are easy to gess, because you can't do anything new in that mater.

Japanese Teeth: That's my point. When a plot is obvious and cliché, I end up groaning and rolling my eyes a lot. But here, those same plots are handed quite efficiently, and it doesn't leave me with a bitter impression. I know I'm kind of a forgiving audience, but still, that's impressive. Tropes Are Not Bad, as they say.

Remember Phineas and Ferb . Plots are reciced literally every episode and is still amazing

edited 7th Jul '11 3:48:27 PM by FallenLegend