I get the feeling he has been lurking for a while, but now we've hooked him into posting.

edited 23rd Jan '12 1:06:07 PM by RedSavant

The forces against the heroes should be equal to or GREATER than the heroes themselves. I apply this to intelligence as well.

I like Sherlock, but I wouldn't be able to watch it if Moriarty weren't there. I like Code Geass, but I wouldn't be able to watch it if it didn't have Schneizel. I don't like the forces of Evil to be made to look like IDIOTS, ok?

^There's middle ground between Magnificent Bastard and Goldfish Poop Squad, Ginger. Sherlock is unwatchable anyway wouldn't be unwatchable without Moriarty; he's only in one of the original stories, and people bloody loved Sherlock Holmes even before he was introduced.

I think the best hero/villain intelligence match-off is when they're equal mentally, but the bad guy has a lot more stuff. As a result, the hero has a solid challenge to overcome without "well, anyone smarter than this guy is evil".

edited 23rd Jan '12 1:08:04 PM by CountDorku

@Ginger

Phineas and Ferb is a good example of an incopetent villain that is fun to watch. But yeah good villains make everything more interesting

edited 23rd Jan '12 1:08:25 PM by FallenLegend

Think of Negima - Negi's much more intelligent than most of his opponents, but they're so monstrously strong that he has to come up with insanely detailed plans to defeat them. I find that much more interesting than an end-of-Death Note-style twenty-page lecture-off or ten pages of dialogueless punching.

edited 23rd Jan '12 1:10:37 PM by RedSavant

"Besides it's more badass to become good at something when you have to start from the beginning."

@ Ace totaly agreed!

Red: I've posted here before, though not enough to be noticed or remembered by anyone.

Ginger: Sounds like you have some rather specific tastes in media there.

edited 23rd Jan '12 1:12:22 PM by Bindlestick

But that's exactly why I almost STOPPED reading Negima! (I feel bad now) I don't like villains being raw muscle.

Generally, I'm a fan of intelligent heroes who use Indy Ploys as opposed to gambits. (like the Doctor in Doctor Who) To me, the reveal that everything was going according to the Heroe's plan BUGS me. It destroys the tension. That's why I was annoyed with the ending of Game Of Shadows.

edited 23rd Jan '12 1:15:10 PM by gingerninja666

I have to add that I don't hate all situations where the villain is smarter than the hero - Lex Luthor and Superman, or Grand Admiral Thrawn and the entire New Republic, spring to mind. Just that it should arise organically from the characterisation, rather than "hmm, we need to give the hero pressure, let's give the bad guy an IQ of a million". The Joker is still a compelling villain even though Batman is smarter than he is, since Mr J is unpredictable enough that Bats can't gambit out what he's going to do next. The Absorbing Man is waaaaay dumber than Spider-Man but still poses a meaningful threat because he's like seven feet tall and can turn into steel or concrete. That kind of thing.

Great, my pickiness kiled the thread

Six minutes of inactivity =/= dead thread.

That's how it works around here more often than not

edited 23rd Jan '12 1:21:59 PM by gingerninja666

So if you like your villains to be "smarter" than the heroes, I have a random question. What did you think of the Diamond Dogs?

edited 23rd Jan '12 1:21:55 PM by Swasfews

I've noticed.

You guys post like... umm... shit, I can't think of a good simile.

It isn't a hard and fast rule with shows that I don't take as seriously, and this show is an exception to loads of my rules. (I love the fact that Celestia is a Magnificent Bitch for example)

I loved the Diamond Dogs

edited 23rd Jan '12 1:24:15 PM by gingerninja666

Sometimes I wish this thread would stay on topic for more than 30 minutes

Mad Max.

...The hell?

Aww, I thought it'd be Thunderdome...

Close enough.

lol I didnt understand anything. but I laughed anyways good comic.

edited 23rd Jan '12 1:32:31 PM by FallenLegend

This thead stay on topic? Can it even do that?

I'm not sure if I want to find out.

Maybe if we get a lot of duct tape...

Well, uh, any of you guys played Doom? Good game.

Yep, the 1993 original. Doom 3 just wasn't, well, Doom.

edited 23rd Jan '12 1:39:34 PM by LightPhaser

Which, the very original one? Someone should totally ponify it.