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gingerninja 666 avatar
#61626 from Aboard The Damocles
[up] I don't consider the amount of of spells you know to be indicitive of how much power you have. Take the thundercloud spell.

Assume both Trixie and Twilight could do it. Trixie's raw power can only allow her to produce a single cloud, wheras Twilight's can produce an entire storm.

Please tell me I'm making sense! [lol]

To me: Skill = How many spells you can learn and how much finesse you can pull them off with.

Raw Power = How potent the actual spell is

edited 29th Dec '11 5:22:41 AM by gingerninja666

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#61627
[up] Yeah I know Twilight would be able to make an entire thundercloud. I just doubt an average Unicorn would be able to do better than Trixie did. And I'm not arguing that Trixie isn't skilled. It's just her classification is relative. To top level Unicorns she's Weak, but Skilled. To the General Populace she's Strong And Skilled.

And that single cloud still made lightning. If she wasn't fighting a giant space bear it would have probably done something.

edited 29th Dec '11 5:27:40 AM by Badwolfwho

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Kyler Thatch avatar
#61628 from the bottom of my heart
Twilight does know plenty of spells, and she studies more every day. That's kind of her thing, after all, learning new spells. A good handful of episodes have her showing off a new thing she's picked up (the mice transformation, the Want-It-Need-It spell, Rarity's butterfly wings, etc).

And she showed a lot of creativity in the use of her spells when she pacified the Ursa Minor. For example, a wind spell is one thing, but blowing it through reeds to create a lullaby?
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#61629 from Aboard The Damocles
[up] When did I say she didn't know a lot of spells? Stupid overpowered Twilight.

I'm just explaining why I think Trixie should be classed as Weak, but Skilled, but NO you just HAD to make it about Twilight, didn't you?
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#61630
[up] To be fair you're the one first compared her to Twilight.
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#61631 from his own little world
Because no one likes Trixie tongue
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#61632 from Aboard The Damocles
[up][up] Well I have no one else to compare her to.

I don't like Twilight when it comes to discussing how powerful she is. Her lovable, adorkable personality is literally the ONLY reason I can tolerate her [lol]

edited 29th Dec '11 5:42:16 AM by gingerninja666

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#61633
[up][up] This Cake disagrees.

Also Somebody made Spike's cupcake from Secret of my Excess.

edited 29th Dec '11 5:42:48 AM by Badwolfwho

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#61634 from Manehattan to Canterlot
.....I like Trixie.....
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#61635 from the bottom of my heart
One other thing, Weak, but Skilled would really only apply if, say, Trixie beat Twilight (or some other sufficiently powerful unicorn) in some kind of confrontation or contest. But since their only direct comparison is the Ursa Minor incident (and Trixie only succeeded at making it angrier)...
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#61636 from Aboard The Damocles
[up] Stop trying to belittle her ffs.

FUCKING TWILIGHT!!! PIECE OF SHIT!!
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#61637 from Manehattan to Canterlot
[up] Oi oi oi OI!

Don't you talk about Twilight like that!
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#61638 from the bottom of my heart
Hey, I'm just using the definition of the trope.

To be fair, she did manage to outdo everyone else. If anything, that puts her above all but one of the Ponyville residents (unless you're running a humility contest).
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#61639 from Aboard The Damocles
Sorry! Sorry! I really have an issue with overpoweredness
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#61640
[up][up][up][up][up] Well yeah cause the only option there was to brute force the Ursa. If the comparison was during Trixie's anything you can do I can do better, she'd probably win.

[up][up] Actually if Trixie is Weak, but Skilled, that doesn't mean that Twilight has to be Unskilled, but Strong.

edited 29th Dec '11 5:49:39 AM by Badwolfwho

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#61641 from his own little world
Pfft, please, Trixie didn't outdo everyone else, she used her magic to interfere with them rather than showcasing any kind of skill in what they challenged her in.
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#61642 from the bottom of my heart
If it makes you feel better, Twilight doesn't have friends.

Or, well, didn't, before Celestia pretty much ordered her to.

I wonder if that could be an episode. Friends versus studies. Twilight Sparkle starting to spend too much time socializing, to the neglect of other things.
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#61643 from Aboard The Damocles
[up][up] Stop DOING THAT!!

[up] Trixie has no friends either

edited 29th Dec '11 5:53:27 AM by gingerninja666

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#61644
[up][up][up] Eh she still bested them it was just she did it via combat instead of a skill challenge.
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#61645 from Singapore
@Sapphire Cupcake: Oh wow, I knew it could be done!

It'd be funny if Trixie decided to find out more about Twilight and commenced some kind of revenge plot, only it was a gambit by Celestia to reform the wayward magician :D

edited 29th Dec '11 5:59:27 AM by AceOfScarabs

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#61646 from the bottom of my heart
What I want to know is why Trixie's performances have to involve humiliating people. A moot point, since I don't expect to be seeing her again. But still.
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#61647
[up] Well she only singled out the 3 ponies who were actively heckling her. Maybe she does that every show, she invites the ponies heckling her to do better, she proves they can't and goes on with the show.
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#61648 from Aboard The Damocles
Y'know what? I honestly don't think Trixie's performances are SUPPOSED to involve humiliating people. As badwolf said, she only challenged the crowd after her pride was hurt. It was a magic show, and RD clearly called out: "Magic Shmagic. Boo!"

If anything, we've learned that Trixie doesn't take criticism very well. [lol] (it wasn't even really a constructive criticism anyway)

@Ace You say that like it's a good thing. I'd lose some respect fo Celestia if that happened.

edited 29th Dec '11 6:09:55 AM by gingerninja666

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#61649 from the bottom of my heart
Actually, you're right.

Not entirely Trixie's fault, then.

(Which isn't to say she's blameless, either, but... yeah.)
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#61650
[up][up] Hey! Rainbow Dash was folding under peer pressure if she didn't want to be accepted by Applejack she wouldn't have started heckling.

Also every other pony there seemed to be enjoying the act.

edited 29th Dec '11 6:12:46 AM by Badwolfwho

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