also, the GGG is a yearly event, so they're probly just talking about the one after S1

well since my first choice for a page topper here got trolled, have the gala song

ninja

I swear it sounded like Luna

edited 25th Dec '11 12:00:54 PM by Seraphem

I didn't do anything worthwhile yesterday, and probably will not today. Waiting for monies to go buy things on Steam.

Merry birthday of that guy who died for your sins or something, everyone.

Seconded. It explains a lot of things.

Sonic rainboom? Warps the magic field. Pegasi being unsuitable for flight? Magic carries them.

Am I the only preplexed by Rarity's song? It's nice sure, but it sounds diffrent from "The Art Of The Dress" and when she normally speaks.

Her singing voice is done by someone else. I thought it was pretty noticeable in "Art Of The Dress" too though

Rarity's recent song is pretty catchy. Or at least, I think so.

My thought was that Magic sort of existed everywhere at once. It exists in every living, or even just every natural object, basically keeping it moving along. The ponies just have the ability to warp it in specific way. Unicorns, for example, channel it through the horn into a very concentrated form, while Pegasi more or less bunch magic in their extremeties to manipulate outside magic that they touch.

In a general sense, magic is like the ultimate potential energy. It can theoretically be converted into anything that it needs to be. It's also what pony souls are made of - when a pony dies their soul joins the magic flow, eventually getting sucked into another 'empty' body, becoming another pony entirely. Perhaps in a way it could be said to be made of pony souls, instead of vice versa, because it's sort of alive in it's own right - that's why the everfree forest still works. In the absence of ponies, the magic works on it's own.

There's also a bunch of stuff about conscious souls in the magic stream growing strong and becoming gods, but if I started to get into that we'd be here for ages.

I love the song. Especially the oddly depressing way in which it ends

edited 25th Dec '11 12:13:34 PM by gingerninja666

This isn't going to lead to Fullmetal Alchemist's red stones, is it?

That's pretty much in line with what I was thinking, besides the stuff about souls. I do like the idea of the magic field being at least partially sentient though, like the Force.

Yeah, dead ponies being the power source for all magic doesn't quite sit right with me, especially in this type of setting.

edited 25th Dec '11 12:19:33 PM by PerpetualLurker

Seriously, how can people get so seriously confused about the GGG most likely being an annual event? It's not that difficult to figure out, is it? Sorry I'm late to that conversation line, but that keeps bugging me.

Magic is just a commonplace force. No more unusual in Equestria than gravity is here. Why are people getting so hung up on this?

I overthink almost everything, but even I never wanted to delve too much into the science of all this. I'm fine with discussing Power Levels and such, but I still want there to be SOME mystery behind magic XD

people were honestly confused about that?

edited 25th Dec '11 12:22:47 PM by gingerninja666

In this very thread like four people were wondering "Didn't the GGG already happen?" after the episode.

I'm not hung up on it, it just makes for interesting discussion. If the setting were more serious, the exact mechanics of magic would be a very important part of the world-building.

People are stupid.

I don't mean that to offend the "like four" people. That's a general rule on everyone here, including me.

edited 25th Dec '11 12:27:03 PM by Kerrah

I liked Rarity more after "Sisterhooves Social" and "Sweet and Elite."

And I thought it was obvious from the get-go that the GGG was annual. Celestia even said as such at the end of "The Best Night Ever."

—R.J.

To be fair, it dosen't feel like that much time has passed since the last GGG so Twilight's comment about it "coming up soon" made me jump. I gusse thats really the source of my confussion.

Her fandom name is Fleur, and she is considered a trophy wife rather than a whore, and a nice person.

Oh, I'm perfectly aware of that. I'm shit at world building but I love it if it interests me

I could honestly listen to an entire movie that's NOTHING but exposition.

As I said, magic is just another force. I DO think that Unicorns have a different type of Magic inside them that compounds with the ambient magic in the air to produce spells though. Same with Pegasi and Earth Ponies.

Internal Magic combining with Ambient magic basically. If all the ambient magic in Equestria were to up and vanish one day. All the Ponies would lose their race specific abilities

edited 25th Dec '11 12:40:35 PM by gingerninja666

Happy Holidays everyone!

No no, it isn't that magic is fueled by dead ponies. I haven't seen all of FMA, so I don't know exactly what their explanation for alchemy was, but my idea of magic is basically like this:

• There is magic in the world. It is essentially pure potential energy.
• Magic can become any sort of energy it needs to be be.
• Magic is constantly flowing in and out of every living thing.
• All living things are bound to the 'magical flow'
• ponies can manipulate the magic flow in the world through various means
• When a pony dies their soul returns to he magical flow
• When a soul encounters an empty body (A unborn foal, or a zombie pony maybe), it will enter it, if the body is compatible (so you only rarely get a unicorn soul in a pegasus body, as well as the gender equivalent. It still happens, but it's rare)

from a scientific standpoint, 'magic' is just the most basic form of energy. It fuels everything, up to and including the soul. The magic is alive and works of its own volition to run the world, clustering into frequencies of heat, cold, stuff like that. Certain clusters and bunches of magic in the flow will become a soul, and the clutsers can pick up and drop off other bits of magic between lives. They're not even set solid during life; in life the clusters can be altered depending on how the pony uses it. a pony who delves into magic as deeply as say, Twilight, would gain enough magic and a solid enough control over their personal connection that even after death the soul would remain aware. IT can then learn to more actively harness the magical flow. These such souls are called 'old souls', and can learn to bond themselves to the magic of a single object or place - the old souls then become what are essentially gods. Celestia and Luna, in this fanon, are old souls who bound themselves to the magic of the sun and moon.

So yeah. Magic is just a base expression of energy, and it clusters and flows to become every other kind of energy, including souls. Magic doesn't run on pony souls, pony souls run on magic.

dammit, kegi!

I try to come up with something, and here you go again.

I wonder why I don't like contrbuting to world building discussions? -_-

Sorry, just jealous

edited 25th Dec '11 1:12:55 PM by gingerninja666

Anyway, how long till the next pony episode?

I'm so stoked to see some awesome Granny Smith. Or hell, just more of the Apple Family would be great

edited 25th Dec '11 1:22:38 PM by gingerninja666

Thinking about it, I think our approaches to this are quite similar, but we're just approaching it from opposite directions. I'm using real science as a base, and fitting magic into the picture there, classifying it as an omnipresent field force. You are using the magic itself as the base, with a similar omnipresent force theory, then tying everything into the magic, including biological science and even other metaphysical concepts, like souls and the existence of the Alicorns. Both are equally valid, it just depends on what kind of story you are trying to tell. The thing that I find most interesting about your take on it is that, for all intents and purposes, any sort of anti-magic or magic nullification is pretty much a straight up death spell. And not just normal death, but complete destruction of your soul death, unless souls can survive in some sort of dormant state without magic.

edited 25th Dec '11 1:42:41 PM by PerpetualLurker

Depends on which FMA.