So, complementary but opposite versions.

I like the blacksmith idea.

Twi version: Stallion that studies hard, but has no trouble making friends when he's not studying. Is not adorkable or socially awkward.

RD version: A washout from Royal Guard training, this stallion is nevertheless competent and skilled, but is more reserved and introverted.

I think Twi!foil needs to be a bit more of a slacker; like he's comparably skilled to Twilight, but doesn't put in nearly as much effort, spending study time socializing instead.

That's exactly it. Good suggestions btw.

Foil! RD is like chuck yeager

edited 20th Dec '11 1:36:11 PM by ApplelightLimited

I think I remember Foil!Twi being very Jockish and skilled in the use of Indy Ploys. He doesn't plan, he just makes shit up as he goes

And he never panics...ever.

I've got a Foil! Pinkie:

Works at his aunt and uncle's pizza place...is just as crazy and as random as Pinkie...but by contrast...is always slightly sad and deflated.

edited 20th Dec '11 1:38:35 PM by ApplelightLimited

I wanna see that!

Foil! AJ is a hard working salt of the earth type...who's a bit sneaky...and tells tale tales that may or may not be true. His folks are even worse. (think of chefs parents from South Park.

edited 20th Dec '11 1:40:26 PM by ApplelightLimited

Teeth: Watching eBay closely. The Twi is actually the Canterlot Target plush pillow, so she ran me hardly any money at all. The smaller Fluttershy is one of the first made and sold in the fandom. I had to fight a bit to get her. The giant Fluttershy and Pinkie happened to come at about the same time. I'd been watching the large plushy auctions for a while, but people were always willing to pay way more than me. Since I was monitoring them so closely, I managed to get them for a steal. EqD informed me of pretty much all of these auctions, so it really comes down to patience, patience and more patience.

So, are you Foil!ing their virtues or their personality quirks?

Whatever is funnier!

edited 20th Dec '11 1:42:22 PM by ApplelightLimited

Which is why I wanted foil!RD to be both quiet, introverted AND treacherous to a certain degree. A sellout, basically, but for a good cause

I always imagined foil!Pinkie as sort of one of those uber-uptight wedding planner types; like the ones who are really really picky about making sure everything is in it's exact place.

@Kuroi: Figured; I've been watching eBay for plushie Twilights for a while, but they always go out of my price range pretty quick. I just don't have a ton of spare cash for the moment; at least not enough to justify spending a hundred bucks on a custom MLP doll. All I have at the moment are a few McDonald's happy meal toys and a few blind bags ponies.

edited 20th Dec '11 1:46:56 PM by JapaneseTeeth

Maybe AJ's foil is a storyteller? He's still a nice, hardowrking sort of guy, but his whole job is to lie - but despite that he's not really a bad guy.

I think it would be sort of neat to show a contrast to each of their virtues in a way that isn't at all bad, but is good. IT might not be as funny, but I think it could be pretty interesting. Although it would be kind of funny to see the mane six disparaging them for being dishonest, selfish, etc., completely ignoring the fact that everyone else loves them because they're still genuinely good ponies. Could lead to a good moral - just because someone's values are different from your doesn't mean they're the wrong values. It's a bit of a fine one for kids, I'll admit, but still.

Foilshy is extremely assertive and a bit of a loud mouth. He often imposes on other ponies, but his heart is in the right place as he does so because he's always looking to help.

Foil! FS is massive, loud, and extroverted...and still as kind as they come.

Beat me too it!

That's good, I like that!

edited 20th Dec '11 1:47:36 PM by ApplelightLimited

So a Boisterous Bruiser type of character crossed with Gentle Giant? I could see that; a massive Big Mac style pony who likes roughhousing and stuff.

edited 20th Dec '11 1:48:10 PM by JapaneseTeeth

Yes, who still loves animals and the like too.

Would cry if they stepped on a bug...and god help you if you hurt his friends.....

edited 20th Dec '11 1:49:39 PM by ApplelightLimited

@kegi Damn you, Kegi. That's what I've wanted this show to do for ages. Just like I want them to show the NEGATIVE sides of the elements too.

Maybe Foil!Shy could have a Tough Love type relationship with his animals? Like he trains working dogs or something. From the outside (especially to somepony like FS) it looks like he's cruel to them, but in actuality all the animals genuinely love him, and he loves them back

edited 20th Dec '11 1:52:26 PM by gingerninja666

I like the idea, although I'm not sure how some of the elements would really work, especially ones like honesty; it would really be tough to spin being dishonest into being a positive trait.

White lies protect people's feelings. There IS such a thing as being TOO honest

An outwardly gruff stallion that still manages to have enough heart to power the sun. Once you get past the false bravado, anyway.

I like the Chuck Yeager RD variant. Cool, confident, quiet, very loyal to the cause.

Breaks a wing during a high-g turn: "Hey there, Control, I think ah got me a little bit of a problem 'ere. Think ahm gonna glide on over to that there field and take a breather for a spell.." he says as his left with snaps back viciously, flapping uselessly in the wind, pulls in a nail-biting landing with scuffs and scratches. Nurse whatsherface shows up.

"Oh, everyone's makin' a fuss. Just a scratch, see?"

AJ: Sometimes it is good to keep silent or say things tactfuly than to use blunt honesty.

edited 20th Dec '11 2:02:24 PM by pvtnum11

Unless...Foil! AJ is honest...but is lazy and a bit of a slacker?

And isn't horribly stubborn.

There's a difference between lying and not telling the truth

One of my favourite terms

edited 20th Dec '11 2:04:02 PM by gingerninja666

I think it would be best if the Foils still had the core element of harmony at heart, but it's their personality that's the opposite.

Foil! Rarity is generous (first round's on me!), but also tasteless, and at times, replusively disgusting.

Foil! Fluttershy is kind, but loud, boisterous and at times intimidating.

Foil! Pinkie is funny, even though they're usually gloomy and downcast (making others happy releives that)

edited 20th Dec '11 2:11:22 PM by ApplelightLimited