Fancypants: Best background pony?

Would like to see more of him.

And I really liked this new episode. Everything was great.

I meant to put more emphasis on the HEIRARCHY side of things.

He just doesn't strike me as the type who should be TAKING orders from anyone

edited 3rd Dec '11 3:13:47 PM by gingerninja666

Wasn't it?

PART-TEE CANNON!!!

edited 3rd Dec '11 3:13:47 PM by ApplelightLimited

Regardless, I expect plenty of Rarity/Fancypants shipping in the future.

In fact, I'm surprised I haven't seen any fanart yet.

...We've already named the fancy ponies in today's episode?

Dang, this must be the fastest-moving fandom ever...

By the way I'm still on Mysterious Mare Do Well. What's the next episode called?

Dammit! And I was FUCKING enjoying that "Affably Evil gangster" idea too!

Sweet And Elite.

edited 3rd Dec '11 3:17:08 PM by ApplelightLimited

If that was Upper Crust, then Fleur could easily be his actuall wife.

I kind of like Fancy Pants as the man-on-top too. Maybe he and Celestia have a necessary evil thing going on - she knows he's doing good, even if it's technically illegal, and she knows he's skilled and has connections, so she occasionally uses his business to her own ends? Like, getting information through him, which he in turn gets through underworld contacts? It seems like it would be a fairly small order for say, a spy in a business in a neighboring country to also pick up a little bit of local gossip that doesn't make it to their neighbors.

Hmm... this bears investigation. Unfortunately, I'm tired. I shall retire, and check for this much-fabled "wife at the garden party" again tomorrow.

Y'see now that's pretty much my EXACT head-canon.

You REALLY don't like the idea of business sex do you, kegi?

edited 3rd Dec '11 3:20:06 PM by gingerninja666

Actually a lot of them actually came with names. Fancypants, Jet Set, Upper Crust... we also got two new Wonderbolt names! Rapidfire and Fleetfoot (I checked an HD version of the episode. She's blue with a white mane. In other words, she's Echo)

So, Rarity thanks Celestia for the entire first scene and doesn't thank the Bellboy once. Real classy.

Rarity is third best pony.

Song is amazing.

Blueblood. Not doing something jerkish but he does own a Zeppelin which is pretty awesome. Two thirds right.

Opal actually tried to help. Poor cat.

I liked the detail in this one too. Especially "The Persistance of Ponies" in the art gallery.

Rarity calls everyone darling. Seems like a fancy pony thing to do.

I think it's just that Ponies are really just very innocent creatures, which leads to a large degree of cultural naivete. They don't really pay attention to current events or history beyond what interests them personally and all the other things already discussed.

IMO It's because ponies never have to outgrow a sense of childish, innocent, naivete like humans have to as they grow up. Mostly becuase

1.) Ponies are just such naturally sweet innocent...people? ponies? whatever...so there's not a lot of drive away from innocence from there own society, (I.E. little to no pony on pony crime, violence, con-artists or other things that make people cynical)

2.) Any significantly major threat from without or within is handle by there resident physical goddess. Essentially ponies never have to fully (from the human perspective) 'grow up' and move out of mommy's house.

And I'm not saying it's bad, if anything it makes the whole pony-verse that much sweeter, that it is such a nice place that every-pony there more or less is able to focus on what they love without having to worry about all the little things that plague people turning them jaded and cynical. And yes a side effect of this is the heretofore discussed obliviousness to history, major current events etc if they don't directly pertain to there major interests.

So the Cantorlot elite not knowing about the Elements of Harmony wielders isn't all that un-thinkable, since we didn't see any of them in the celebration scenes, so they could have just chalked it up to, something bad happened but mommy (The Princess) made the bad man go away, and now everything's fine, without really caring about the details. Meanwhile the Ponyville pony's do know about it, but they know the mane 6 don't want any special recognition for it and treat them like normal.

I just want to say...Twilight's dorky dancing routine is so cute.

but this is PONYVILLE we're talking about. The city that makes you a national hero over ANYTHING. I don't buy them choosing to treat the mane cast normally simply because they asked

it made me cringe... in a good way

edited 3rd Dec '11 3:26:33 PM by gingerninja666

Even so, the most (outside of the last episode) they did for "heros" is basicly through them a thank you party then and give them an award for it. Which we see at the end of Return more or less.

And as to Rainbow, I'd chalk that up to Rainbow encouraging it to go on, it also shows that ponyvilleians have a very short attention span, they celebrate the Mane 6 for a week or so off camera then lose interest. Which also plays into my never fully grow up (by human terms) theory.

She was sticking her tongue out and all!

edited 3rd Dec '11 3:29:16 PM by ApplelightLimited

@Ginger: No, I do not. In truth I'm not entirely certain just what it is that bothers me quite so much about it. Perhaps it's the fact that one party is bound to be enjoying it on a very idfferent level than the other, perhaps it's the fact that at that level of intimacy if one doesn't care about the other they're little more than a toy. It's one thing to care about and sleep with multiple partners, or even casual sex if you can at least care about making each other happy for that evening, but having sex simply because you feel you have to just... squicks me. It smacks of prostitution vaguely, I suppose.

And the odd thing is, I'm not sure for whom it's worse. Is it worse for the mare, because FP doesn't care about any of them on a personal level, or is it worse for FP because he has to spread himself around, and can't really devote himself, even if he'd like to? And even then, I get the feeling most mares see him as a status symbol rather than truly liking him. So maybe that's the idea that really bugs me. He's more a conquest than a partner in this situation. The mares don't want to be with him because they love him, although they may well like him. They want him because he's powerful and well known and has 'good taste'. Being able to get with him would be seen as a personal acheivement, like being able to impress an art critic - they're winning his approval with their bodies. There's no love, no caring; they're only doing it to say that they did. It's superficial, and at the end of the day an experience that ought to be close and intimate because base and crass; a pornographic popularity contest with a poor stallion in the middle of it. Yes, he gets pleasure from it. But he doesn't get a partner, and the fact that it happens may well scare potential partners away.

I wonder if he was always as polite as he is now? I wonder if maybe he started out shallow like the rest of them, but so much fame eventually made him jaded and remorseful for leaving behind simplicity for fame, but by then it was too late to go back.

This episode did have touches of House of Mirth.

Looking through the episode, Upper Crust calls Rarity "darling" as well.

I don't think you can find a Watsonian explanation for the whole fame problem.

Its best if we all slip on our Doylist hats and remember is supposed to be kept to a minimum (even if we get some anyway), and the writers are taking advantage of that in their story telling.

@Apple and the sad thing... that's pretty much how I dance

The wonderbolts race each other? How hasn't that competition gotten incredibly predictable by this point? Surely the fastest bolt would win every year. I'm assuming they rotate which participants are performing each year to try and keep things fresh

edited 3rd Dec '11 3:37:46 PM by gingerninja666

I guess there must be quite a few Wonderbolts we haven't seen.