That's exactly what I'm saying. She's using a colossal threat to Equestria as a test.

Clearly Twi was being tested the way Naked Snake was tested by THE BOSS :V

No, she didn't KNOW there was that big of a threat at the time, because she didn't know Sombra had returned.

At least Twi won't have to do a Virtuous Mission.

@Roy: No, big. I kinda wish there was better explanation on magic and everyones' "power level" so to speak. But that'd be more at home in a more fantasy geared show. C'est la vie.

@Apple: I'm hardly ever of any help, but I'll always be glad to listen.

@ Seraph: "But not before he was able to put a curse upon the empire. A curse that caused it to vanish into thin air. If the empire is filled with hope and love, those things are reflected across all of Equestria. If hatred and fear take hold... Which is why I need your help finding a way to protect it."

She knows that the Crystal Empire needs protection from hatred and fear. She knows if it isn't protected Equestria will be failed with those emotions. She uses this as a test.

A leader who puts national security at risk for a test...the results turned out right, but that doesn't sound like a decision a reasonable leader would make. But, like I said, all's well ends well, I guess.

She had a hunch Twi was needed to solve the puzzle.

Speaking of Man of Steel, how would those of you that saw it compare it to the other Superman films (well, assuming you watched them)? I've only ever seen the original Superman (which I enjoyed, even if I really didn't find Lex to be villain material) and Superman Returns (which I also liked, but acknowledge it wasn't nearly as good as Superman I).

Superman is faster than light. Celestia is dead before she realises anything is wrong. Unless you're reffering to one of the weaker versions of Superman, in which case you need to specify.

When I say Celestia was "holding back", I don't mean she could have used a more powerful attack (I assume that it was her most powerful beam), I mean that she just brute forced rather than using strategy, like raising the temperature of the room several thousand degrees, summoning a horde of tentacle beasts, creating a rain of swords etc etc etc.

Celestia's strength is in the octillian ton range, but the more powerful version' of Superman have it at least three orders of magnitude higher. Celestia's only demonstrated quadruple digit mach speed, rather than the billions of light years per second that the more powerful versions of Superman can achieve. Celestia's destructive capacity is a little over a hundred times what's needed to blow up the solar system, but her durability isn't much higher. Superman has dealt with far more powerful beings.

As for the silliness of Superman's powerlevels, it's not the powerlevels that matter. It's what you do with them. (Admittedly, I never liked how stupidly powerful Superman was compared to most of his foes.) Medaka Box proves that ridiculous power levels can be fun (of course, DC has higher power levels than Medaka Box does).

funny we should be talking about supes, i just started reading Mare of Steel. It's... okay, so far.

Fluttershy's greatest secret revealed!

@Blissey - [Sweetie Bot joke omitted for being too easy]

That reminds me, I'll read anything ponifyed if you guys think it did the source material pretty well. For instance, Fo E's given me a good idea of the Fallout universe even if I can't play the games. It's not perfect, and there's changes, but still. So I think it could be a way to experience works I normally could not. Thus is the power of ponies.

Not that I'm doubting you, but when did Celestia demonstrate all of this? I don't remember any of that from the show. (If any of those are from the comic, just say "Comic." I don't want to be spoiled just yet.)

I fail to see why Superman and Celestia would feel the need to fight each other. They're both Big Good, I'd think they'd get along rather well actually.

@Irish: That rope trick in the comics isn't even a demonstration of strength, it's more a manipulation of space using a physical medium to enable the change.

I've heard that Superman committed genocide in the latest movie.

Now watching: S1E11-JPN subs

[[quoteblock]]Not that I'm doubting you, but when did Celestia demonstrate all of this? I don't remember any of that from the show. (If any of those are from the comic, just say "Comic." I don't want to be spoiled just yet.) [[/quoteblock]

It's required to move the Sun around the Earth once a day. (Unless you're using weird HAX.) (the durability comes from surviing a beam more powerful than her own in A Canterlot Wedding.) (Admittedly, I should probably have said telekinetic strength, but still). Her second best showing is in the comics, though, yes.

Hey guys, what's going on in this-

*sees Celestia power level discussion*

Hang around, I may have some art to show soon.

And CMC ska, but that's another story.

@JT: I didn't start this!

(Technically, I never do, but whatevs.)

Oh, wait! Pony POV!Celestia shoyuld be able to curbstomp Superman when she has shed mortal form, but the power level of the Pony POV series is ludicrous.

It's that time of the thread again.

edited 18th Jun '13 5:15:12 PM by dRoy

All I'm going to say is that it's possible to interpret Celestia's power level as anything from godlike to not much more powerful than Twilight, and leave it at that.