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#302126 from Delamare
And it's not like we don't see enough of Sombra to know he's a threat, just from the traps and other stuff he left behind to gaurd the Heart, you can tell he is the most intelligent and competent villain so far. Yes he didn't get much characterization on screen, but just through seeing what he's done you know he's a force to be reckoned with. Yes I would have loved to see more of him in the present and had him make a bigger impact beyond ominous force of evil, but there wasn't time for that. Plus it's possible he's not actually gone.
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#302127 from Pandora
Who knows? Maybe Sombra will appear again in the season finale.

Side Note: Sooooo apparently, Gak is to this show what Morning Rescue is to Madoka Magica.
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#302128
@Badwolf: Still my favorite two-parter as well.

[up]Minus the dramatic mood dissonance that made Morning Rescue funny of course.

edited 11th Nov '12 11:56:00 AM by Mio

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#302129
I do have to agree that Sombra could easily not be gone. His horn was clearly intact in the end, and he demonstrated the ability to corrupt things that a broken piece of himself comes in contact with as well as regenerate said broken piece.

edited 11th Nov '12 11:57:38 AM by PerpetualLurker

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#302130 from Meinong's jungle
I can kinda see how it might have been rushed a bit. It wasn't so much the plot set up, so much as it spent a bit more time expositing about the Crystal Empire than it did actually showing how it works. It felt at some points like there wasn't much at stake, since we never really get to interact with the Crystal Ponies in any meaningful way. Out of all of them, only the librarian felt like a real character. The others were all sort of interchangeable.
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#302131 from Celestia's own Auto Lot
Hey, do not offend Gak; where do you think the Smooze came from?
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#302132 from Manehattan to Canterlot
I completely forgot about the librarian. I liked her. waii
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#302133 from Stardust Road
Daw, mini Sombra.

Twilight after using a bit to much of Sombra's magic.

edited 11th Nov '12 12:02:42 PM by Badwolfwho

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#302134
Sombra really has been the most competent villain so far - he didn't lose because he got cocky and just stood there/wouldn't shut up. Those traps he devised were pretty devilishly clever.
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#302135 from Celestia's own Auto Lot
Hell, the librarian was pretty much the only one who said anything. The others were too busy channeling the spirit of Marvin...
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#302136 from Canterlot
Those traps he devised were pretty devilishly clever.
Well, apart from the fact that he hid the powerful artefact that could defeat him in his own throne room, on the basis that nopony would have been brave enough to search there.

And not only that: even if he for some reason had no better place available what reason could he possibly have had to put that gem on display, at the centre of a big room in a tower with open windows? I mean, the trap idea was great, I've got nothing to say about it, but couldn't he have used a fake gem for the trap and hid the right one, I dunno, inside a spare chamber pot?
But they seem to know where they are going, the ones who walk away from Omelas.
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#302137 from Manehattan to Canterlot
Seconded. Sombra clearly knew what he was doing. He's the most competent villain seen so far.
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#302138 from Stardust Road
On the basis that all of his subjects were Earth Ponies and thus couldn't get through the scary door or the endless stairs. And even if they did he still had an alarm system.

edited 11th Nov '12 12:14:31 PM by Badwolfwho

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#302139 from Canterlot
Couldn't he have connected the scary door, the stairs and the traps to some other place, though, just to have an extra layer of protection in case, of, I dunno, invading unicorn magical prodigies or angry demigoddesses?

edited 11th Nov '12 12:13:54 PM by Carciofus

But they seem to know where they are going, the ones who walk away from Omelas.
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#302140
So, upon rewatching the episodes, I've noticed that there is a lot more potential foreshadowing going on than just Celestia's plans for Twilight.

  • When Twilight triggers the Nightmare Door trap, notice that during the entire bit where she tries to chase down the door, her magic aura gets progressively darker as she gets angrier until she lashes out with black magic, which backfires. That could easily become a problem for her later on down the line.

  • When Cadance activates the Crystal Heart, she is identified as "The Crystal Princess" by a pony and her cutie mark glows. There's definitely something important about that, and since the episode doesn't touch on it again, it'll probably be important for the next time the Crystal Empire becomes important.

  • As I stated above, the focus on Sombra's regenerative abilities and the fact that his horn was intact in the end.

While some of these might just be neat details, they're certainly ripe for expansion and elaboration later in the season.
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#302141 from Delamare
Yeah, given there are no Crystal pegasi that we've seen, it's like saying middle ages fortifications were useless, because they won't protect against an ICBM.

[up] Plus that black book at the very end

edited 11th Nov '12 12:15:40 PM by Seraphem

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#302142 from Meinong's jungle
@Carc: Honestly, it was a good plan because 1. noone knew where it was anyway, and 2. even if they did they wouldn't want to go in there to attempt to get it. Keep in mind he probably devised all the traps on the basis that he would be living in the castle, and therefore around to own anyone who tried to steal it. And keep in mind that not even the most powerful unicorn in Equestria could bust his magical ward on the heart anyway.
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#302143 from Celestia's own Auto Lot
Well, as far as villains are concerned, the first was effectively insane, the second ws batshit insane and the third only lost due to a deus ex machina.

edited 11th Nov '12 12:18:15 PM by VeniVidiPony

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#302144 from Canterlot
Fair enough. Still, I think that it was in blatant violation of the Evil Overlord List tongue

But in any case, I can certainly agree that Sombra was a far more careful villain that Nightmare Moon or Discord.

edited 11th Nov '12 12:19:29 PM by Carciofus

But they seem to know where they are going, the ones who walk away from Omelas.
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#302145
@Seraph I said more than just that.
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#302146 from Meinong's jungle
Also, I find it interesting that Celestia and Luna decided to just brute force Sombra out rather than using the elements or the heart or something. I wonder what the significance of that is.
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#302147 from Canterlot
I wonder what Celestia's long-term plan is for Twilight. Do you think that Twalicorn is a possibility?

edited 11th Nov '12 12:24:38 PM by Carciofus

But they seem to know where they are going, the ones who walk away from Omelas.
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#302148 from Appleloosa
the third only lost due to a deus ex machina.

How's that a Dues Ex Machina? It's the same power source that made her so powerful in the first place.
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#302149 from Stardust Road
Let's look at pictures of Sombra.

King Sombra is barrelling down on you. What do you do? It doesn't matter you can't stop him.

Still charging.

Getting closer.

Now he's just looking at you. Correct me if I'm mistaken but I believe this is even more terrifying.

Still standing still, looking to the sky, looking to a better tomorrow. Vote King Sombra 2016.

Close up and he's smirking. Super detailed, I love it.

Sombra learning his rightful place. Forgive me but I had to.
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#302150 from Manehattan to Canterlot
Is Polly Math a good pony name? smile
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