My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic Forum Archive (nuked Western Animation thread)
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#295176
It wasn't their guns. It was "hey, let's do a shout-out to the fandom!" And then the feedback was "Oh. They don't want it." This isn't about staying true to their creative vision, because it wasn't their creative vision.
Fanfiction I hate.
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#295177
The feedback was largely positive with a few whiners. That's why I won't trust them again.
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#295178
@Beware

Who is this nebulous "them" you keep refering to? Only one single writer was involved in the change, and all other involvement was from people not involved in the creation of the show. You're spreading blame around quite liberally where it doesn't need to be.
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#295179
They needed executives, a writer, a voice director, an actor, recording people, and others to make the change. Hence "them".

edited 22nd Oct '12 2:03:35 PM by BewareTheWorlock

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#295180 from Hialeah,FL.
In other words, blame the executives.
"All I ever wanted was the truth." Element of Ambiguity
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#295181
I blame everyone who physically took part in it.
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#295182 from Hialeah,FL.
Okely dokely.
"All I ever wanted was the truth." Element of Ambiguity
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#295183
I don't think they got a writer to make the change, given that the only difference in the lines themselves is the removal of one instance of a name.
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#295184
So, you blame the people whose only other option was to walk out and quit the show over what is really a minor edit in the grand scheme of things?
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#295185 from Northern Virginia
You're a little nuts, aren't you?
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When All Else Fails, worry, that's the 14 way.
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#295186 from somewhere
Well, the thing is, an angry/stupid parent, even if it's just one, is quite dangerous. Being a Mama Bear doesn't imply your cause is right, it just means you'll defend your child to death from any percieved threat, even if it's not actually that big of a deal. I'm guessing they didn't want to take the risk.
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#295187 from Meinong's jungle
I still don't see what the big deal is; the change didn't make the episode worse. If they would have aired the edited version to start with, nobody would have cared. I wish the change wasn't necessary, but I don't think it really matters enough to get worked up over. If they were going to revert the show to G3 levels, there are a lot of other things they would have censored. As noted many times elsewhere, the only reason they used the name to begin with was because they weren't aware of the implications. It would be like if they used the word "kike" without realizing the implications and then decided to remove it after the fact. Sure "Derp" isn't nearly that offensive, but at the same time it isn't surprising that they'd rather be safe than sorry. I mean, if they had to fight to get "loser" on the show to start with, it shouldn't be a surprise that this wouldn't fly.

edited 22nd Oct '12 2:14:24 PM by JapaneseTeeth

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#295188
You have to wonder what goes on in these "mama bears" minds. Their children are exposed to everything else in this world, but one cross-eyed pony is where their ire goes? Yep. That makes sense.

EDIT: Give them time. It took almost twenty years for Speilberg to give security guards walkie-talkies.

edited 22nd Oct '12 2:12:57 PM by BewareTheWorlock

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#295189 from Meinong's jungle
Honestly, I don't think Mama Bear people are the problem; it's more Political Correctness Gone Mad types.

Also, if they were going to freak out and censor everything, there's no reason that they wouldn't have already done so. I'd understand your worries if this had happened before, but this is literally the only time in the entire show and surrounding materials that they've even come close to censoring anything.

edited 22nd Oct '12 2:16:53 PM by JapaneseTeeth

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#295190
My favorite incident was the one where a couple of adoptive parents get unsettled by Portal 2.
Fanfiction I hate.
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#295191 from somewhere
[up][up] Or worse, both.

edited 22nd Oct '12 2:16:49 PM by Lopiny

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#295192 from Hialeah,FL.
Pretty.

I thought this was a PSA.
"All I ever wanted was the truth." Element of Ambiguity
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#295193 from Delamare
What, per hasbro, was the ultimate thing that made them change it, wasn't anything from the Brony fandom, but rather complaints from parents, and seeing just how that scene could be seen if you Didn't know the fannon behind Derpy

oh and read earth pony's Guide, just finished it and it was pretty damn good. Which, given what we know meens you'll probably hate it grin

edited 22nd Oct '12 2:19:31 PM by Seraphem

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#295194 from his own little world
Yeah, it seems to be quite the bad reason to stop watching a show just because of one moment.
Axios!
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#295195
@ Teeth: It doesn't need to happen before. The fact that it's happened at all is the problem.

edited 22nd Oct '12 2:20:43 PM by BewareTheWorlock

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#295196 from Fort Worth, Texas
Bluh bluh, Bluespade posts stupid things when he's irritated.

edited 22nd Oct '12 2:59:02 PM by Bluespade

Fight. Struggle. Endure. Suffer. LIVE.
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#295197
Well I'm not seeking attention. I decided to express an opinion. Deal with it.

EDIT: That's the only thing that unsettled a couple of parents during Portal II?

edited 22nd Oct '12 2:22:59 PM by BewareTheWorlock

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#295198 from Northern Virginia
Or he's just nuts.
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When All Else Fails, worry, that's the 14 way.
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#295199 from Hialeah,FL.
Your reasoning is pretty flimsy.
"All I ever wanted was the truth." Element of Ambiguity
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#295200
Perhaps, but knowing that people know that Hasbro will buckle under pressure is enough to make me lose trust, and you're talking to a guy who can count the number of people who have his trust with one hand and not run out of fingers.