@story: Since I caught up with Homestuck. Vriska's too cool not to tri8ute in some way. =)

Well I would give Homestuck a try but I don't think I have enough time for that.

I can barely read the trope page for Home Stuck.

Too bad it isn't just a text story I can stick on my Kindle like FOE or CEQ.

from about a billion pages back (last time I was here, anyway):

I recall once reading a selection where Dumbledore criticized the logic of Lord of the Rings. IIRC he said something about how Gandalf should have just kidnapped Frodo and taken him to Rivendell and said eff all to any morals or civility he may have had.

According to the Trope Page, Dumbledore is supposed to come off as kind of crazy, but the piece taken out-of-context struck me as the author using a character as a mouthpiece for his "rational" reasoning. In general I take no stock in rationality, because it's often less rational (and less practical) than whatever it is the rest of us do.

I mean, if I see a Chupacabra, and you try to go all Occam's Razor on me, I'm gonna say "shut the f—- up. It was a Chupacabra. I'm pretty sure I know the difference between a humanoid lizard goat-sucker with big red eyes and any possible natural animal you're claiming I mistook it for."

... So what's all this about Pinkie being put on trial?

yeah the way they did it in FOE was great, they din't change them or invert them, they just showed how even a virtue can be truned bad if it's taken to far and not balanced.

Blind loyalty to nothing mroe then the contract, regardless of what it requires you to do.

Forcing laughter to try and hide you fear and pain by putting up a Stepford Smiler front, instead of letting the laughter come naturally to lift you up out of the depression.

Honesty taken to part of getting yourself killed rather then just shut up.

'Generously" forcing what you think is best for ponies on them no matter what it takes.

etc... yeah that was REALLY well done.

Wait, Dumbledore said what?

@story: Well, it's excellent, but it's also very very long. We're in around the 6700s for pages, and some pages have really long chatlogs on 'em.

edited 25th May '12 7:37:13 PM by RedSavant

My fic reading list is huge I feel i won't be able to read everery borny on this thread fics

@Freeman the trope page is almost why I DIDN'T read even part of it.

It's fucking TERRIBLE!!

Moe, Harry is the only author mouthpiece in the fic. Other characters do expound on their views, but they aren't intended to always be correct.

IIRC he said something about how Gandalf should have just kidnapped Frodo and taken him to Rivendell and said eff all to any morals or civility he may have had.

no, the arguemnet was that as soon as gandalf even suspected the ring was The One Ring he should have goten Frodo to safety, not kidnap him, just get him moving just like he ended up doing, only sooner. THEN confirm his findings, instead of waiting till he was sure he wasn't mistaken. That way if hew's right the ring is already relativly safe, and if he's wrong then all he's done is inconvenienced Frodo...who would have been fine anyway since he lways intened to travel and see Rivendale eventually anyway...and made himself look a bit paranoid.

but again, much like with a lot of poeple's critisms of FOE backstory, hindsight's 20/20 and it's easy to judge a character as stupid when you have information they had no way of knowing.

One thing that does annoy me is the gratuitous digs at canon. Like how Snape rants about the Sectumspectra spell. Those don't serve to add anything to the story.

Of course. It will be in the Role Playing proper forum like all RP games.

Edit: Doh! Wrong thread.

edited 25th May '12 7:43:05 PM by storyyeller

ok that came out bad. the arguement was that the only reason gandalf waited to confirm it WAS The One Ring was he was scared of looking like a fool if it turned out it wasn't. Dumbledore said Gandalf should have just taken the risk of looking foolish rather then potentially leave the One unguarded. He din't say he should have done anything cannon gandlaf didn't, jus that he shouldn't have waited to make sure he wasn't making a mistake.

Speaking of which, now that I'm done with CEQ, I guess I'll try putting HP Mo R on my Kindle and rereading it.

@Seraph Yeah... that just sounds annoying

well the rant wasn't the spell itself, just at how stupid it was for a student to use a random spell, ANY spell, on someone when they had no idea what it did . Which is a good point.

also it was Quirrel that did the rant.

@ ginger...hey at least the villain is extremely competent. Voldemort made one of his Horcruxes out of the plaque on the Voyager 2 probe, good luck getting to THAT one to destroy it.

Gah, stupid Homestuck. Everyone keeps nagging at me to finish it... (rolls eyes)

Believe it or not, I DON'T actually find the trolls all that interesting

Nor do I like Jack Noir either

edited 25th May '12 7:49:39 PM by gingerninja666

I know it's stupid, but that doesn't mean he has to put it in his story. It just sounds like a gratuitous petty insult.

Oh I wrote up something about using underwater hydrophones to try and listen in on the sea cucumbers plots.. it was totally ludicrous but it followed the scientfic method so I got an A.

@ginger Glad I haven't gotten as much nagging as you have.

I don't think those are even in the same phylum.

Why are people trying to make you finish it? If you don't want to, you don't have to; it's not for everyone. :/