And because of this post, I read it in Steve's voice

EDIT: Pagetopper

edited 17th May '12 6:41:51 PM by Whatshisgame

@Applelight:

Not even Beelzebub. Did he really need to use Megidolaon there? Does the anime just like being super flashy or something?

@Ginger: Uh huh. I'm saying that I like something you don't like. Should I start going on about how it makes me feel like an elitist asshole that I like games that require some deduction to make the most out of? We have different preferences, that is all. There is no reason to feel bad about that.

As for rpgs having the best plots, that's not really true. There are non-rpgs with good plots out there, its just that rpgs in general pay more attention to it. But there are LOTS of rpgs with awful stories.

Actually, all of the Megi-spells are pretty poor options for bosses.

edited 17th May '12 6:44:07 PM by Bluespade

@Blue: So by the point you're choosing the true killer, is it impossible to get it wrong then?

@ginger: Well, they're sort of the game type that supports stories the most. Games with more complex and interactive forms of gameplay can't lean as much on story, because you're doing the story. So what story there is needs to be subtle, almost implied, so it doesn't get in the player's way.

For example, a game I worked on with a team of students: We obviously had no budget, so we couldn't do much for the story. Our writer ended up cramming the vast majority of the story into two cutscenes and a few collectibles that did nothing else. As a result the story seemed crammed in. RPG's can get away with it much better because their gameplay is very restricted, so they lend themselves to the segregation of story and gameplay much more. This allows for much more complex plots.

True. I prefer a steady helping of buff/debuffs and standard level attacks. Keeps the SP levels high for the long-ass battles most of them wind up being.

edited 17th May '12 6:44:59 PM by kegisak

@Kegisak:I don't think you can get it wrong at that point. The only bad endings stem from the point in Namatame's hospital room.

I love how the Persona series makes buffs/debuffs a viable strategy. Practically a necessity, in fact, unless you're overleveled.

edited 17th May '12 6:46:04 PM by Bluespade

@Keg DUUUUUUUDE, that's nothing.

1. Beelzebub isn't the strongest.

2.It's Lucifer, which he does summon.

There are also Visual Novels.

god this stupid R34 is ruining dah show crap has got me annoyed..also apearntly the latest wve was started by some "famous" person named neil Cicierega (no clue never heard of him) ranting about how adult men are comspiring to stel away anything aimed at young girls. and the whole Princess Molestia meme is really all a sick joke we are playing to taunt those young girls.

who the buck is he?

The main reason RPGs have heavy plots is because it's nearly impossible to get away with an Excuse Plot in an RPG, because there simply isn't enough exciting gameplay to carry a lack of story. Pokemon managed to do it for a while, but even it's gotten pretty plot heavy with the latest games.

Huh. So you can actually be completely daft and still get the good ending, so long as you're just smart enough to know something is wrong with Namatame and lucky enough to pick exactly the right thing afterwords. Interesting.

I guess that keeps it from being too exclusive.

neil cocksuckagia... whatever. no i don care.

@Chad: Really? But Beelzebub is the ultimate devil... so what suit does luficer, THE FUCKING DEVIL belong to? Judgement, I guess?

@Blue: Yeah, It was about Kanji's dungeon I leanred that Attack! Attack! Attack! was not a good strategy vs. bosses. I usually keep the attack mode on for the normal dungeons though, though I admit debuffing some enemies might make the battles easier, if not shorter.

edited 17th May '12 6:49:08 PM by kegisak

Well, I'd also suggest that Adventure games, either in text or point-and-click form, can do a good job of both containing and maintaining a fairly solid or expansive story. Just look at games such as Gemini Rue, Out of this World, or Anchorhead that focus very heavily on the plot without getting in the way of the gameplay. There's also Slouching Towards Bedlam.

edited 17th May '12 6:49:16 PM by Drenius

ok apparently he's the guy that made Potter Puppet Pals.

why do we give a buck what he says again?

Apparently you do if you're ranting about it.

You'd think a guy who's up enough on memes that he could make The Ultimate Showdown Of Ultimate Destiny would actually do some research into the fandom he's complaining about...

But really, I'm just going to ignore him. Haters gonna hate and all that.

edited 17th May '12 6:49:50 PM by JapaneseTeeth

P4 stuff: I was always under the impression you had a limited amount of guesses when you're given the list. Is that not true?

You know... i have developed a don't-give-a-fuck attitude over the past few months. It's really helped. I only care what I think and what my closest friends think.

I'm using spellcheck for your benefit. Just because I'm drunk does not give me an excuse to not type coherently and I am sorry for my previous posts.

edited 17th May '12 6:51:27 PM by BerryBubble

Great, so my options are:

Become a master strategist.

Or.

get used to having a hard time finding interesting plots in non-RPG videogames

What absolute BULLSHIT

So, my brother is now completely converted to a fan of this show. He doesn't keep up with any internet community, though, so he's really not in the know for anything not directly related to the show. What more or less confirmed that he really enjoyed it, though, was when he asked me today if Season 3 was up on Youtube, because it wasn't on Netflix.

Um, most RPGS don't require hardly any complex strategy. Some are harder than others, yes, but it's rarely actually complex.

edited 17th May '12 6:53:40 PM by PerpetualLurker

You said like strategic crap. Or villains or whatever.

edited 17th May '12 6:52:35 PM by Chadaman99

meh, don't really care, just interested in finding out what caused the latest wave of "stuff we don't personally like iz teh ebils" crap.

anyway..so this P4 thingy..has it been ponified?

Since we're suddenly talking about Persona, have an Ask Pony blog.

@Ginger: Do you dislike RPG's or something?