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Seraphem avatar
#136076 from Delamare
Because Twilight was the one doing the math. RD goofing the math, yeah I'd believe it, TWILIGHT goofing simple math like that...nope, don't buy it.

yeah Dash's 1000 WP was over optimistic, but remember the record WASN'T 999 it was 920, so when Twi said they should have enough to beat the record she meant they should have at least 921, not 1001

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edited 25th Mar '12 9:01:57 PM by Seraphem

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ilsemmr avatar
#136077 from Austin
No, it's because I don't think Rainbow Dash made the math. I think she would rely on Twilight to do it since that's something "eggheads" do. And I don't wanna imagine Twilight being wrong about math either.

But yeah, I've made it my headcanon that a few of the pegasi were a little weakened by the flu without being completely sick.
Davidthe Mouse 14 avatar
#136078
Well I have to wake up at 6:40 AM.For High School

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crowlover avatar
#136079
wild mass guessTwilight made the calculations assuming everything would go perfectly. She forgot to factor in that ponies don't work as hard in a group as alone (assuming others will pick up their slack). The calculations were redone, factoring in this and the general decrease in wingpower due to Thunderlane's ilnesswild mass guess
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#136080 from Austin
Goodbye and good night ^^

I have also now made it headcanon that Twilight calculated for 921 instead of 1000. Then 8 pegasi would indeed make a big difference for 921 so it would be about 15 wing power each... which is... more possible.

edited 25th Mar '12 9:07:07 PM by ilsemmr

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#136081 from Delamare
same, have to work in the morning...hope everything works out with Appplelight. He should be fine it's his first major offense and we've had ponies get un banned from worse then that. plus he's got all of us putting in good words for him.
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Crowfall avatar
#136082
Also, wouldn't flying in circles lower your wingpower? I'd imagine it would be harder than flying in a straight line. Not to mention the fact that making the tornado was a prolonged endeavor, while the measurements were made with whatever the flight equivalent of a sprint is.
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#136083 from Austin
Yeah, and I think the mod that came in here sounded at the very least a little sympathetic, so I think it is relatively likely he comes back.

So I guess we can conclude one thing about the wingpower thing: it's complicated and a whole variety of different factors played into it.

edited 25th Mar '12 9:09:44 PM by ilsemmr

Crowfall avatar
#136084
Minor point, but Fillydelphia's wingspeed was 910, not 920, so those 8 pegasi would have needed to average 13.75 each to match the record.
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#136085 from Meinong's jungle
TL;DR I think there are valid in-universe justifications. I.e. RD overestimating the wingpower of the town, wingpower being reduced by going in circles, RD giving Twilight faulty figures to work with (Twi isn't a pegasus so she wouldn't be able to tell), etc.
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crowlover avatar
#136086
[up]Twi assuming perfect conditions...
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CDRW avatar
#136087
Nope, Twilight is just bad at math. She's more of a literature nerd anyways.tongue

Edit: Well, so much for going off to bed like I though I was. Anthropology just updated.

edited 25th Mar '12 9:15:18 PM by CDRW

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Seraphem avatar
#136088 from Delamare
i'd buy the going in circles, weakened by early stage feather flu etc..if Twi hadn't said her calculations showed them not having enough Wingpower just from subtracting those 8 ponies before the first attempt.
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crowlover avatar
#136089
I'm going to bed after this comment:

MAKING ONE CALCULATION ERROR DOES NOT MAKE YOU BAD AT MATH!

And with that, I leave. Goodnight.
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CDRW avatar
#136090
Gahhhhh! Fimfiction, y u no working right?
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ilsemmr avatar
#136091 from Austin
[up][up][up] Oh yeah....

Well, I give up trying to justify it. Either Twilight or the writers (or both) cannot do math. Or at least this math.

[up] Huh. It's not working for me either. That makes me feel sad

edited 25th Mar '12 9:19:55 PM by ilsemmr

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#136092 from his own little world
I wonder exactly how many pegasi Ponyville has in it. Their combined efforts (with Fluttershy) made it 800 even, and they were missing eight...does that mean there's around 90 or so?
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CDRW avatar
#136093
I can't go to bed until I read Anthropology!
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#136094 from Meinong's jungle
I have to admit that I could see Twilight's unfamiliarity with Pegasi-specific sciences causing trouble. I mean, there are different types of math, after all.
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#136095
[up][up]There's a new chapter up? And it's currently unavailable? Why must you torment me so?

edited 25th Mar '12 9:21:48 PM by Crowfall

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#136096 from Northern Virginia
  1. Why is J Teeth Death cloud and Ginger J Teeth?
  2. J Teeth, why would you want be mistaken for Death Cloud?
  3. J teeth, I'll be reading your review soon but I just got home
  4. and... Applelight is.... Gone...? What the bleeding hell happened!?
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CDRW avatar
#136097
Ha ha! I got to Anthropology's chapter page! Now let's see if I can make it into the chapter itself.

Edit: I'm in!

[up] #4. Somepony said something very offensive to somepony else that hurt that somepony quite badly. Applelight got offended on that somepony's behalf and went on a personal crusade to get back at the first somepony.

edited 25th Mar '12 9:25:38 PM by CDRW

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#136098 from Meinong's jungle
@Mousa: Huh? Why am I Death Cloud all of a sudden?

Also, long story with Applelight. You should probably PM somebody about it to get the full rundown.
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#136099 from Northern Virginia
You had his avatar until now.
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#136100 from Delamare
ok one last thing before bed.

ok I worked out a way the explain it in verse as long as I don't think to hard.

Total wingpower of the tornado isn't additive directly, working as a group disperses the load, so it's some weird math equation based on the average WP of all the pegasi in the funnel times number of flyers, so losing a few of the highest would have a far larger impact then just what there wingpower alone would give. And Fluttershy's seemed additive, but really at that point they were so close, ANY little extra would have put them over the edge.
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