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#133651 Pannic Fri, 23rd Mar '12 11:35:02 AM

Of course not. That'd just be stupid.

Also, Ginger should totally read my fic. The villain

(well, one of them) is competent, badass, and hilarious.

edited 23rd Mar '12 11:37:11 AM by Pannic

#133652 Purple Dalek Fri, 23rd Mar '12 11:36:26 AM from the Moon

It's a comedy.

I'll do a thing. I don't know. It's a thing in progress. Respect the thing.

#133653 gingerninja 666 Fri, 23rd Mar '12 11:36:50 AM from Aboard The Damocles

Why would anyone ever CONSCIOUSLY write an incompetent antagonist. It blows my mind

bwuh?

edited 23rd Mar '12 11:37:25 AM by gingerninja666

"Contests fought between two masters are decided instantly. An invisible battle is now raging between the two of them." Lulu vs Schneizel

#133654 Purple Dalek Fri, 23rd Mar '12 11:37:48 AM from the Moon

Because it's funny.

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#133655 Cookoo Fri, 23rd Mar '12 11:38:37 AM from A cuckoo clock

@gingerninja, As people find it funny. Simple as.

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#133656 gingerninja 666 Fri, 23rd Mar '12 11:38:42 AM from Aboard The Damocles

&

Well sorry, but I never find it funny

edited 23rd Mar '12 11:38:58 AM by gingerninja666

"Contests fought between two masters are decided instantly. An invisible battle is now raging between the two of them." Lulu vs Schneizel

#133657 Seraphem Fri, 23rd Mar '12 11:39:19 AM from Delamare

becuase Blueblood isn't a villain in this, he's just a jerk, and a buffoon and he only actually shows up in the last chapter. Again, it's a comedy, though he does seem to be getting some Character Development in Season 2.

Build a fool proof system, and the world will create a better fool.

#133658 Pannic Fri, 23rd Mar '12 11:39:34 AM

x5 General Quake. He's an earth pony warlord who can make the ground shake by stomping.

edited 23rd Mar '12 11:39:45 AM by Pannic

#133659 gingerninja 666 Fri, 23rd Mar '12 11:40:30 AM from Aboard The Damocles

That's no excuse.

competence =/= unfunny

edited 23rd Mar '12 11:41:13 AM by gingerninja666

"Contests fought between two masters are decided instantly. An invisible battle is now raging between the two of them." Lulu vs Schneizel

#133660 Cookoo Fri, 23rd Mar '12 11:41:24 AM from A cuckoo clock

Actually, Looking at how the story is going, I looks like the villains are going to be Luna, Trixie and Blueblood. It should be interesting.

Sorry Gingy, but I like an incompetent villain. There is a humour there which you can't get with competence. I'd would say that incompetence only works in a comedy though.

edited 23rd Mar '12 11:43:32 AM by Cookoo

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#133661 Kyler Thatch Fri, 23rd Mar '12 11:42:11 AM from the bottom of my heart

Ginger, we get it. You don't think incompetence is likable. Now let the rest of us have our fun, m'kay?

you will go to the paper towns and you will never come back

#133662 gingerninja 666 Fri, 23rd Mar '12 11:42:52 AM from Aboard The Damocles

fine!

I don't get it...

edited 23rd Mar '12 11:43:24 AM by gingerninja666

"Contests fought between two masters are decided instantly. An invisible battle is now raging between the two of them." Lulu vs Schneizel

#133663 Enlong Fri, 23rd Mar '12 11:43:23 AM from The Magitek Holyland

But incompetence (or, for more dramatic and less comedic and extreme examples, making mistakes and being fallible) doesn't make a bad story either.

I'm fine with a villain being outplayed or outfoxed in the climax, because otherwise, he'd just win.

edited 23rd Mar '12 11:44:02 AM by Enlong

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#133664 Pannic Fri, 23rd Mar '12 11:44:22 AM

I think Ginger is simply of the mindset that he prefers that the heroes earn their victory rather than have a Curb-Stomp Battle that tends to be common in a lot of fan fiction.

Now I'm remembering The Girl Who Lived...

edited 23rd Mar '12 11:44:51 AM by Pannic

#133665 Purple Dalek Fri, 23rd Mar '12 11:44:36 AM from the Moon

A completely 100% competent villain can edge closely to Villain Sue.

I'll do a thing. I don't know. It's a thing in progress. Respect the thing.

#133666 Applelight Limited Fri, 23rd Mar '12 11:45:16 AM from Manehattan to Canterlot

Incompetent antagonists?

Yeah they can be a great source of humour and sympathy.

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#133667 Kyler Thatch Fri, 23rd Mar '12 11:45:43 AM from the bottom of my heart

"Prefers" is putting it mildly.

you will go to the paper towns and you will never come back

#133668 Purple Dalek Fri, 23rd Mar '12 11:46:02 AM from the Moon

Yeah, they can sympathetic. What would it be like to lose constandly?

I loved Megamind.

edited 23rd Mar '12 11:47:00 AM by PurpleDalek

I'll do a thing. I don't know. It's a thing in progress. Respect the thing.

#133669 Kyler Thatch Fri, 23rd Mar '12 11:46:31 AM from the bottom of my heart

Megamind comes to... er, mind.

you will go to the paper towns and you will never come back

#133670 Enlong Fri, 23rd Mar '12 11:46:44 AM from The Magitek Holyland

Well yeah, I don't want a villain that's stupid, or one who's so absurdly powerful and competent that his defeat is nearly impossible to comprehend with the way the story has set itself up.

I like powerful villains whose plans are far-reaching and hard to escape, but who can be overcome with a herculean effort on the part of the heroes. For an example, Father from Fullmetal Alchemist made one of the best villains I've ever seen.

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#133671 Badwolfwho Fri, 23rd Mar '12 11:47:14 AM from Stardust Road

I used to read the Vinyl Scatch Tapes. I stopped after the first set.

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#133672 the Librarian Fri, 23rd Mar '12 11:47:24 AM from his own little world

Ginger might like my war fic then, if he likes confident villains.

Then again earth ponies haven't done anything awesome so far, so maybe not. :P I do intend to make Big Macintosh a main character, though.

edited 23rd Mar '12 11:50:12 AM by theLibrarian

Tick Tock, goes the clock/ He cradled and he rocked her/ Tick Tock, goes the clock/Till River kills the Doctor.

#133673 gingerninja 666 Fri, 23rd Mar '12 11:47:46 AM from Aboard The Damocles

but they're not a good ANTAGONIST.

Antagonists serve as obstacles for the protagonist to overcome, if they don't do that job well, then they ain't a good antagonist.

Tht's how I've always seen it

@Enlong that's all I want too

edited 23rd Mar '12 11:48:23 AM by gingerninja666

"Contests fought between two masters are decided instantly. An invisible battle is now raging between the two of them." Lulu vs Schneizel

#133674 Seraphem Fri, 23rd Mar '12 11:48:05 AM from Delamare

@ Pannic which is a pointless argument when talking bout something like The Vinyl Scratch, which is just some light hearted comedy with no real conflict until the very end, and even that was pretty light and funny.

And I agree with a few points, incompetent antagonists can be funny and entertaining, but they only work when played for laughs, if we;re supposed to take the incompetent buffoon seriously, it falls apart.

Build a fool proof system, and the world will create a better fool.

#133675 Pannic Fri, 23rd Mar '12 11:48:30 AM

Earth ponies are the focus in my fic. And they're pretty badass, what with keeping an entire forest up and managing to hold their own against two mobile armies while they're stuck on an island.

Yes, I'm plugging my fanfiction. I'm somewhat desperate.