It's not reality warping in the "she actually has powers" sense, but she can do a lot of impossible things thanks to rule of funny. Problem is, I hate that kind of humour unless they're using it against someone who deserves it. Twilight... didn't. Not by a long shot.

@Fallen Technically Twilight's mane is 3 colours: purple and pink streaks on a purple tinted navy blue. And Twi does care enough about her appearance to at least fix her bed mane in Bridle Gossip.

As for the socks, well, it was the ATG theme, but you should note that I never played the theme completely straight. I played it for laughs instead of cuteness.

And thanks.

@Gault If it's any consolation, I believe Lauren Faust herself freaked out a bit when fan concern about the implications of that moral were brought up with her.

@Death There's no denying that Pinkie often breaks the 4th wall and engages in some massive Offscreen Teleportation abuse, though. So while fanon tends to exaggerate things as usual, I have to disagree with you. Reality is definitely bending, even if it's only for Rule of Funny.

I want to see evidence of this. It's a little consolation, yeah. But not much.

I want the DVDs to have Lauren Fausts commentary on them. Though, with everything she revealed online already, providing new information will prove challenging.

Reality Warping - ok, but using this interpretation just for complains - that I don't understand.

Why everybody who complain about this episode act as it was only Twilight bashing/abusing in this? Forgeting that she have C Mo A at climax.

None of series crew need to apologize for this episode.

Not her Deviantart page, since then I'd have to dig for it. But still

Confound these pony avatars, they drive me to act suspicious in public

Yeah, I'm trying to hide the fact that I'm looking up ponies in a computer store right now

edited 1st Aug '11 11:30:37 AM by JackOfAllTrades

CM of A or not. Pinkie seemed to be in control for that entire episdode. I've mentioned it before, but it was mainly that self-fulfilling prophecy that annoyed me. It made it seem like Twilight never had a choice whether or not to accept Pinkie's power, as it was already fated to happen, and would occur no matter what.

also guys... What do you think is the most rewatchable episode of MLP Fi M?

edited 1st Aug '11 11:32:01 AM by gingerninja666

Yay. Tag team Googlefu! That article you found gave me enough quotes that I was able to find the general quote where she apologizes for the misunderstanding. It's the second reply in http://comments.deviantart.com/4/1603670/1869321156

edited 1st Aug '11 11:27:22 AM by KuroiTsubasaTenshi

Yeah, I see how Pinkie was in cortol during Hydra attack. When Great And Powerfull Pinkie Pie vanqush Great Hydra. She use her reality warping power to warp hydra into mouse.

(Sigh)

If not for AJ Pinkie could die in this episode.

edited 1st Aug '11 11:32:56 AM by DeathCloud

I didn't mean LITERALLY! (sigh) but it felt like they were all fated to beat the Hydra because Pinkie had already predicted that Twilight would accept her. Until that happened, nothing bad would befall them. If Twilight hadn't stepped in, something else would've to protect Pinkie's unfallable prophecies.

They were in NO danger at all. Least that's what it felt like to me

edited 1st Aug '11 11:37:51 AM by gingerninja666

That clears it up!.

Now I wonder if Faust is a Christian or religious...(side note)Did you guys knew that Butch Harman is a Christian ?

edited 1st Aug '11 11:39:54 AM by FallenLegend

We learned that after Hydra part was over, whe don't knowed what PP predicted. Of course after that we know that that character will because we know what hapen.

Danger was here same as danger in Dragonshy.

I don't really care. Having religion or not don't make you better/worse person.

I know is just bit of trivia for me

But that's exactly why I disliked it. After the reveal, it made me look back on the episode and say: "The only purpose for all of this was just to prove Twilight wrong and Pinkie right. Twilight had no control over anything she did in this ep, it was all the machinations of fate"

As a person who hates the idea that I'm fate's Unwitting Pawn. It annoyed me

edited 1st Aug '11 11:48:03 AM by gingerninja666

That's a good point. Never tough of it that way.

I wonder were equestrian is on the Sliding Scale Of Fate Vs Free Will

edited 1st Aug '11 11:54:23 AM by FallenLegend

No she have control of everything what she did. She could use rational way istead ignoring fact and desperately trying to prove her right. And she was in cortol of her action when Hydra attack, not some cosmic force.

Calm the fuck down, Gault.

I need to stop sleeping. I miss too much.

First thing, and this is in no way a defense of the episode, ginger, you're mixing up cause and effect. Things are predicted because they're going to happen, they don't happen because they were predicted. Assuming strict linear causality, it's not necessarily some supernatural "fate" that allows for accurate predictions, but rather, to the forces that enable the prediction, the entire universe behaves in an ordered, understandable, completely predictable way, and this includes how individuals think.

That said, I completely agree that Twilight was punished and made a fool of for simply being rational and trying to understand things, things that she could simply have dismissed outright and ignored. And then in her moment of righteous indignation, she gave up. Not cool.

But Twilight act irrational in this episode.

No, she didn't. She acted scientifically. She attempted to understand a phenomenon through observation. She formulated a hypothesis (that Pinkie Sense wasn't real) and attempted to gather data, but only got hurt.

She use science to disprove magic, in fantasy show.

And she ignore facts and olny focus on lack of any data, what suport her hypothesis, and that colecting data was nonsensical.

Have you heard of Magic A is Magic A? Just because certain types of magic exist in a fantasy show, doesn't mean that all have to. It also doesn't mean that certain types of magic are exempt from justification when others are given perfectly reasonable explanations for existing. Unicorn magic seems to be a measurable force that can be studied, honed, and directed. "Pinkie Sense"... wasn't.

Unicorn magic is much like our science to equestrians. It's a proven force with basis in their world's logic. Being told: "There are something's you just can't explain, so just accept it." Is one of the most horrible things you can hear as a scientist.

edited 1st Aug '11 12:42:01 PM by gingerninja666

Regardless of setting and intent, she used the rational method - the very definition of rational. Not to mention that, in this setting, magic is treated as a science.

And she doesn't ignore any facts at all. When the evidence points overwhelmingly to the pinkie sense, she gives in and belives in the pinkie sense. Eve while she was testing it, the issue wasn't truly that she believed it wasn't happening, it was that she didn't know what was truly happening. That's why she strapped pinkie in a machine - she was trying to measure the exact details of what happened when one of Pinkie's twitches went off.

Think of it like the Turing test. A computer set a against the Turing test will be tested by psychiatrists, scientists, and religious figures, to test if it can reason, think like a human, and imitate the 'soul'. The latter of these figures would want nothing less than for a machine to demonstrate the soul. they would likely spend the majority of the testing period fighting the thought for as long as they can. But, three computers to date have passed the test. That means that, despite their initial misgivings, they eventually succumbed to evidence. Twilight did the same. Therefore, her test was no less rational than one established by scientists in our world.

I wonder what My Little Pony and the Methods of Rationality would be like.

You'd probably have to depower Twilight immensely to stop the entire plot from being solved in 10 seconds flat though.