Much as I love Madoka, I do think it had some serious characterization issues. They were quite flat to my eye.

Paranoia... driving me... to read that sentence... as being condescending

edited 14th Mar '12 1:18:09 PM by gingerninja666

Give in to the dark side! Let the paranoia flow through you!

...I'll admit, I intended it to be a little snappy. I apologize for that.

So, I was thinking about The Best Night Ever and was wondering who least deserved their treatment of the Mane Six. I'm thinking probably AJ. Maybe Rainbow Dash or Fluttershy.

edited 14th Mar '12 1:21:36 PM by Badwolfwho

oh goodie..do I get to break out my new CIWS ginger tranq system?

I agree with Applejack and Rainbow Dash. Fluttershy not as much.

edited 14th Mar '12 1:21:35 PM by crowlover

@Badwolf: Hm... probably Applejack, yeah. She had a legitimate product to sell for an honest cause, and she was looked down on and ignored. Granted, she shouldn't have been trying to sell food at a party she was a guest at, but still. Not cool, Canterlot set.

I just heard that the 25th and 26th episodes are in fact the Canterlot Wedding. Weren't there supposed to be 28?

I cared about two characters... Mami... and Madoka's Mom.

If I don't like the heroes, what else is there to interest me? The villain? THAT smug piece of shit?

Madoka, eh? I never got around to watching the series. If I wanted to see a good angstfest, I'd watch Serial Experiments Lain, Haibane Renmei, Giant Robo, Grave of the Fireflies, Now and Then, Here and There, or Boogie Pop Phantom. Or RahXephon, but at least that last one has lightness to balance the angst.

edited 14th Mar '12 1:26:10 PM by Drenius

I do think there was food being provided at the party anyway, but...

Ah, yes Grave of the Fireflies... 火垂るの墓...

edited 14th Mar '12 1:25:51 PM by crowlover

@ Crowlover: Yeah I guess she shouldn't have expected that all the animals to love her immediately.

@ Red/: Oh yeah there was free food inside. No wonder Prince Blueblood, The Magnificent didn't want to pay.

edited 14th Mar '12 1:25:15 PM by Badwolfwho

@ Bad, AJ. her only problem that was her own was not checking to see if there was other sources of food there.

RD wasn't intentionally snubbed, the Wonderbolts did want to hang out with her, RD just overestimated how much of there attention she'd have.

Twilight also wasn't an intetnional thing, Celestia wanted to spend time with her, but the boring drudery of the Gala got in the way.

Rarity...well that was just bad luck she choose to try and charm such a clueless sod.

Pinkie had it coming for not realizing no-pony else wanted to PAR-TY and that the Gala was not really a party as she understood it.

Fluttershy also brought it on herself by being to flutterrage and sarring the animals, which made her more ragey etc.. if she had just took the time to chill out and be her normal self she would have been fine.

edited 14th Mar '12 1:26:24 PM by Seraphem

@ginger: The thing about Madoka Magica is that it's not the characters you should be caring about first and foremost. It's the underlying current of what it means to be a Magical Girl in this series, and how the characters deal with what they find out.

edited 14th Mar '12 1:26:26 PM by nomuru2d

Madoka Magica is far more about plot and theme than it is about characters, I admit. The thing is that they needed to compress the character developement in order to fit into 12 episodes.

I don't think you know who was intentionally trying to be evil though. It's more like Blue and Orange Morality.

Anyway, did the replay I posted help you at all Red?

I save Grave of the Fireflies as punishment for people who tell me anime is stupid kid stuff.

A plot... with no villain...

Or a villian with no plot.

Which is worse?

DUN DUN DUNNNNNN!

edited 14th Mar '12 1:29:08 PM by CDRW

@Ginger: But with tons of antagonists, many of whom are very thematically interesting.

@Yeller: A bit, yeah. I got bored in the second puzzle chamber, though.

edited 14th Mar '12 1:29:48 PM by RedSavant

It's not that there isn't a villain, ginger. It's just not obvious at first.

A plot with no villain... easilly.

Yes, I know about Kyuubey

edited 14th Mar '12 1:30:22 PM by gingerninja666

A plot... with no villain...

Now what does that remind me of?

I'd call Kyuebey the villain even if it isn't evil. For a more antagonistic force Walpuguisnaught is the major threat for the latter half of the series.