Coincidental pagetopper picdump!

• Anyone still remember the "My Little Mages" series?
• Brushie brushie
• Humanized Fluttershy
• Reading Rainbow, figurine edition
• I think I like it better when they don't give her huge tracts of land
• This might not actually be that farfetched anymore
• Dashie stole the precious thing

edited 1st Mar '12 7:42:36 AM by KylerThatch

I'll take that as a yes then. Wall o' text incoming.

@ Waz,

Luckily. I'll been gone soon.

I'll have no opportunity to rage.

Wait, there's going to be controversy, in the pony thread?

...that doesn't have much to do with ponies? I'm out.

Thread Hop

Why is ginger raging?

Brb, got fanfics to read, my Trope Watchlist to inspect, and the groundwork to lay for Useful Notes:Nerf Brand. Will lurk here until its time for bed though.

Waz is about to get controversial.

I'll be gone soon so I won't have the chance to get mad

Speaking of: SEE YA'LL!!

edited 1st Mar '12 7:51:44 AM by gingerninja666

Ginger: If the curriculum out there is anything like the Canadian curriculum, you'd better get used to it. I have a film major friend and it seemed like every month (give or take), the profs had him (well, every person in the class, really) having to direct and film a short of some kind. And there were plenty enough mid semester and final projects that were much more lengthy (one of which I got roped into... I'm not a very good actor).

EDIT: Missed you by 2 seconds, huh...

edited 1st Mar '12 7:52:42 AM by KuroiTsubasaTenshi

Let's get dangerous!

Anyway,

I'm trying to start with some assumptions that everyone currently (that I know of) agrees with.

1. Rule 34 on this forum is inappropriate and won't be tolerated. For example, I shouldn't use a Rule 34 avatar for this forum. Censorship is actually a good thing in this case.

2. Derpy was censored because some members of the audience were offended at her portrayal.

The question then becomes, "why is the censorship of Rule 34 material ok, but not the censorship of Derpy?"

It appears that most people's answer would be (if I'm putting words in anyone's mouth, let me know!) "The majority of the audience thinks Rule 34 is offensive / inappropriate / wrong, while there is only a small minority of people who think that Derpy's portrayal is offensive. "

However, isn't that argument just the fallacy of Appeal to the Populus? As long as the majority of the population thinks it's ok, then it's ok?

Personally, based on my worldviews, I believe Rule 34 material is inappropriate and wrong, and should therefore not be posted anywhere, regardless of it's "offensiveness". Just because something doesn't "feel" wrong, doesn't mean it isn't. I don't see anything morally wrong with Derpy's portrayal, therefore it's offensiveness is irrelevant to me.

Again I ask, where do you draw this line? Unless you have some basis on what is wrong or right, how can you say wherether something should or shouldn't be censored?

(Proposition 1 if you noticed doesn't include those who do not think any material should be censored, but I ask those who believe this, "Can I use R34 avatars then and not get banned?")

edited 1st Mar '12 7:52:53 AM by wazkatango

Everything is offensive to someone, somewhere.

Quick art interrupt:

Dashie does not want

Daring Do and the EoSD? FUND EET! ALL OF MY BOOZE!

Tickling Dashie :3

On the topic of R34 avatars: Permaban Crushaaa! Hasudo SHOUNIN! /smashes key into console, completing kanji for VICTORY

Of course, you can try appealing the mods, though I reckon the likes of the Powers That Be will veto your preposition.

edited 1st Mar '12 7:59:59 AM by AceOfScarabs

The situations are vastly different. Derpy's "censorship" was a corporate mandate from Hasbro/The Hub in order to cover the possibility of a controversy that could damage their image. The banning of NSFW things on this website is a decision made by the owner of the website in accordance with his (and many other people's) personal tastes and beliefs. The two aren't exactly comparable.

This, basically.

Rule 34 —> censored on forums

Derpy —> "censored" on My Little Pony

I think your comparison fails at this point.

We're on a website. It's purely a matter of the website owner's discretion what is and isn't allowed. For example, said website owner could decide that he doesn't like fanfiction, and it'd be perfectly within his rights to ban anyone who's posted a fanfiction thing.

edited 1st Mar '12 8:02:52 AM by Pannic

When on a forum, do as the forum-master demands, more or less.

Kinda beat you to that pic, but whatever.

You know, if ZUN actually went and did Touhou ponies, I would... probably go momentarily catatonic from the bizarrity of it all.

I think I get the point. It's not so much of a matter of "shouldn't post r34 avatars" as much as "can't", in which case whatever you believe is irrelevant. Still, I don't see why people who are ok with R34 stuff aren't in as much of a rage over censorship on this forum as they are over Derpy.

@Kyler: I would be nonplussed, than delighted, then find out if I could mail him some booze. After all, even though I can't really buy his games I can buy his books :D

edit: Hahahaha that Assassin's Creed + Gen 1 + FiM fanfic on EQD is great stuff :D

edited 1st Mar '12 8:05:57 AM by AceOfScarabs

If ponies appeared in Touhou, I think the internet would implode. At the moment, those are the two most memetic works out there; combining them would probably make a black hole or something.

@Waz: The rage about Derpy is more over the fact that Hasbro caved to a handful of detractors and went to the trouble of changing something that the vast majority of people were fine with. A more apt comparison would be if r34 avatars would have been allowed, and then Fast Eddie decided to ban them after half a dozen complaints. It's not really a question of the subject matter itself, it's that a handful of people ruined it for everybody else.

edited 1st Mar '12 8:08:17 AM by JapaneseTeeth

Lurker: Couldn't the reputation thing technically be applied to these forums as well? If the owner were to allow rule 34 and that were to become known, there would likely be a loss of users. And a loss of users would mean a loss of ad revenue. I know the two scales aren't quite comparable, but just a thought.

@Jteeth: We might get a memetic Singularity wherein somepony mashes up ZUN music and Ponytunes and composes The Song That Ends The Earth

@Waz The thing is, people on this forum aren't in a rage. We've pretty much said "eh, that's too bad" and moved on. Hell, even the rest of the fandom has just about calmed down at this point, and they weren't angry about "censorship", they were angry at the Vocal Minority that caused it.

edited 1st Mar '12 8:09:24 AM by PerpetualLurker