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#93001 Ace Of Scarabs Sat, 11th Feb '12 2:52:47 PM from Singapore

He really wouldn't, statues are boring.

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#93002 Badwolfwho Sat, 11th Feb '12 2:53:02 PM from The Sun

He specifically says, "But you wouldn't know that would you because I don't turn ponies into stone"

Looks like I remembered it as being more damning to Celestia.

edited 11th Feb '12 2:53:26 PM by Badwolfwho

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#93003 Applelight Limited Sat, 11th Feb '12 2:53:14 PM from Manehattan to Canterlot

That could be something like yeah sure, I tortured ponies, hurt them, humiliated them etc...but at least I never turned them into stone.

Implying disproportionate retribution.

edited 11th Feb '12 2:55:05 PM by ApplelightLimited

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#93004 Mio Sat, 11th Feb '12 2:55:04 PM

Or maybe he was just messing with their heads.

I really doubt that the "turn ponies to stone" line was actually him telling the truth.

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#93005 kegisak Sat, 11th Feb '12 2:55:29 PM

Or it's a case of Even Evil Has Standards.

edited 11th Feb '12 2:55:42 PM by kegisak

#93006 Will Keaton Sat, 11th Feb '12 2:56:09 PM from Alberta, Canada

"I never bansished my sister to the moon either!"

"You don't HAVE a sister!"

"Exactly!"

edited 11th Feb '12 2:57:04 PM by WillKeaton

#93007 Badwolfwho Sat, 11th Feb '12 2:56:35 PM from The Sun

Celestia didn't deny it though.

Makes sense. Discord by his very nature is chaotic, no reason he can't mix things up.

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#93008 gingerninja 666 Sat, 11th Feb '12 2:57:17 PM from Aboard The Damocles

@Bad

Discord might've just been fucking with Celestia and the others though. Trying to sow doubt into their hearts. Make them turn on Celestia. He didn't say that she turned ponies to stone, only that he didn't.

edited 11th Feb '12 2:59:26 PM by gingerninja666

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#93009 Mio Sat, 11th Feb '12 2:58:03 PM

Why should she?

This is Discord we are talking about. Not exactly a paragon of truth.

edited 11th Feb '12 2:58:14 PM by Mio

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#93010 Badwolfwho Sat, 11th Feb '12 2:58:32 PM from The Sun

He implied it so heavily that he may as well have outright said she did.

edited 11th Feb '12 2:58:42 PM by Badwolfwho

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#93011 gingerninja 666 Sat, 11th Feb '12 3:01:13 PM from Aboard The Damocles

@Bad It's called MIND GAMES!! He was trying to sow dissentamongst her ranks and fuck with them

Celestia didn't deny it because she was trying to stay on topic. If she indulged him in any of his mind games then it only make things worse in the long run. She'd open up more opportunities for him to take adantage of what she'd just said. Which she didn't want.

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edited 11th Feb '12 3:02:12 PM by gingerninja666

"Contests fought between two masters are decided instantly. An invisible battle is now raging between the two of them." Lulu vs Schneizel

#93012 kegisak Sat, 11th Feb '12 3:03:11 PM

I think, semantics aside, the intention was fairly clear. He was pointing out that she had turned him to stone, by saying that he had never done the same thing - the issue is simply that all of his subjects were ponies. Not like he's going to turn himself to stone, after all. In essence, "At least I never tried to turn you into a rock."

#93013 Japanese Teeth Sat, 11th Feb '12 3:04:38 PM from Meinong's jungle

I'm just assuming that he's harping off the fact that she turned him to stone. Basically something like "Yeah, being a statue sucked, but you don't know that because I never made any of you into a statue". It doesn't really imply that Celestia turned anypony to stone; just Discord is playing off the fact that trapping him in stone for millenia was a pretty nasty thing for her to do.

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#93014 Red Savant Sat, 11th Feb '12 3:06:14 PM from Eastern US

That was the feel I got, JTeeth, yeah.

@Ginger: Yeah, never legitimize personal attacks by responding to them. It just makes things worse and gives your attacker more room to talk.

edited 11th Feb '12 3:06:53 PM by RedSavant

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#93015 Badwolfwho Sat, 11th Feb '12 3:06:27 PM from The Sun

There's still the possibility. I'm not saying it's likely that Celestia went around turning ponies to stone, just that the possibility is there.

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This, I even pointed out that I misremembered the line as being more damning to Celestia.

edited 11th Feb '12 3:07:06 PM by Badwolfwho

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#93016 gingerninja 666 Sat, 11th Feb '12 3:07:02 PM from Aboard The Damocles

It doesn't matter what he was implying. It doesn't mean anything.

He was trying to mess with them, Celestia didn't indulge him, so he dropped it pretty quickly.

Celestia actually did quite well in that situation

edited 11th Feb '12 3:10:37 PM by gingerninja666

"Contests fought between two masters are decided instantly. An invisible battle is now raging between the two of them." Lulu vs Schneizel

#93017 L Mage Sat, 11th Feb '12 3:09:59 PM from The Moon

Re watching a few old clips I have noted a thing or two, primarily that since the season opener the dialog has been a lot more stilled and unnatural then it used to be. Did this strike anyone else?

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#93018 Mio Sat, 11th Feb '12 3:11:41 PM

How so?

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#93019 Red Savant Sat, 11th Feb '12 3:11:49 PM from Eastern US

^Wait, this season? I hadn't noticed it, no.

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#93020 gingerninja 666 Sat, 11th Feb '12 3:12:08 PM from Aboard The Damocles

I haven't noticed it.

Great, I suppose this means you don't like the show anymore

edited 11th Feb '12 3:12:20 PM by gingerninja666

"Contests fought between two masters are decided instantly. An invisible battle is now raging between the two of them." Lulu vs Schneizel

#93021 L Mage Sat, 11th Feb '12 3:13:41 PM from The Moon

What? No! I still love the show, it's a really small thing that just has been bugging me for a bit, watching old clips brought it back up again.

Most dialog has been exposition heavy, or a secular statement followed by another such statement. There is less give and take.

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#93022 Japanese Teeth Sat, 11th Feb '12 3:14:36 PM from Meinong's jungle

I haven't really noticed the dialogue change any, although the overall plotlines haven't had as much back-and-forth as some of the first season ones.

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#93024 L Mage Sat, 11th Feb '12 3:20:10 PM from The Moon

I don't know, it only bothers me a little, but it just seems like the burnt of conversation usually falls to one pony, or if spread between several is more of series of secular statements then actual conversation. It's just a nitpick.

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#93025 kegisak Sat, 11th Feb '12 3:20:55 PM

That's just because we haven't had a lot of ensamble episodes. A lot of the solo episodes from season 1 had the same issue. I mean, todays episode had plenty of back and forth amongst the girls.

edited 11th Feb '12 3:21:23 PM by kegisak