Yeah, what Spade said. I'm the opposite. I write entire things, but then I can't be bothered to edit it.

Question: Who's a bigger asshole? Trixie or Blueblood?

GILDA

I'd never fond comics all that hard. But maybe it's just a matter of the fact that I've been doing it for years by this point... same as writing and drawing, it just comes natural for now. As far as Sequential storytelling goes, I think this is one of my better ones... though it's not really a proper comic, per se. Proper panel layout is very important to keep in mind, which Tumblr is rather lacking in.

@ginger: Well, lets see... Trixie was a stage performer dealing with ponies heckling her during a show... Blueblood was a noblepony acting in the manner expected by someone of his status and being hounded by an opportunist gold-digger(which, given his family, could have simply been him trolling the shit out of her).

Yeah, I'm gonna have to go with Gilda on this one too.

edited 18th Jan '12 7:16:46 PM by kegisak

Well, I write comics. What I find hard about it, is that it's basically ten times harder to get crit for it, since they are hard to read.

Mm... that's fair enough. Comics are a different medium than most people are sued to critiquing, since they include both story and visuals, and sequential storytelling is completely unique to the medium. Most people could probably only give critique to one or two of the elements at a time, so you'd almost need more than one reviewer to get an idea of what's right or wrong with it.

Pretty much, yeah. I tried to get an artist, just today, actually. I was told I was writing scripts wrong.

@kegi You can't just INVENT a new category like that.

It'd be like asking: Who's the worse political leader? Cameron or Obama? and getting the response:

Hitler.

edited 18th Jan '12 7:20:44 PM by gingerninja666

Hitler is a legit response to everything on the internet though

I would say that Blueblood is the bigger asshole, to answer that question seriously.

Hitler is magic.

No, seriously. Sequential storytelling is just different from any sort of media. You don't show what's happening in real time, so you have to pick and choose what's important enough to show. Depending on how you do it you can manipulate how the reader feels the passage of time in the comic - like the link I posted, half of the panels are just Dumbbell's eyes moving. It makes every twitch that much more important, and extends the feeling of time to make what could have been a few seconds feel like a much more drawn out, and therefore important, event.

It's basically the Law of Conservation of Detail distilled and refined. You have to pick and choose what you show the reader in every single panel for maximum effect. Body language and expression is distilled to still shots instead of full motion, which limits how much of it the viewer can recognize and makes what you do show hugely important. Even something as simple as panel layout can drastically affect the feeling of a comic. It doesn't seem like it, but there's a lot more to comics than most people think, and it is, literally, a very different sort of thing than most people are used to critiquing.

edited 18th Jan '12 7:30:36 PM by kegisak

I wish people in Writer's Block were more like you. I spent an entire argument with someone trying to explain that it's perfectly possible to show more than one motion per panel (as in, change standing position, and change arm position), and it was not fun.

There was ever any doubt about that?

I'm a talentless hack and even I know how intricate sequential storytelling is

edited 18th Jan '12 7:34:06 PM by gingerninja666

I... what... but you said I couldn't just invent sequential storytelling as a new category, didn't you? I'm confused, now.

@AHR: ooooh, that attitude bothers me. If you're going to dedicate an entire panel to a character doing a single movement, it had better be goddamn important. Otherwise, move it along.

It was during a fight scene, so I could see where they are coming from, but I'm not going to dedicate an entire panel to show that they got into a front stance.

@edvedd lol at that comic she reminds me of twilight :) I demand moar comics

For my part I have written some stuff.But I am a drawing artist maninly,

@Kegisak: I think he's referring to the fact that you replied "Gilda" when he asked "Trixie or Blueblood?".

The only comics I've ever drawn that weren't stick figures were made with a flash program. I'm way better at writing than drawing.

edited 18th Jan '12 7:39:40 PM by JapaneseTeeth

Yeah, Ginger was. If it helps though, I certainly enjoyed your rant, Keg.

ooooh... that makes a bit more sense then, yeah. Well... AHR started it.

How do you even MAKE that mistake, Kegi?

Well, because the comics thing was the most recent thing I'd said. And there are a lot of people out there who don't really get that comics are a unique medium. they're just like "oh, comics are just pictures in a row". You're lucky if these people even recognize that a comic is writing, let alone that sequential art counts as it's own art form.

I like comics. I really like comics, and I like to see them be respected. It's just one of those little issue I have.

Hellz yeah.

Another problem is the page difference. 100 comic pages are a lot different than 100 written pages, in terms of pacing.

Another thing I've gotten into arguments with people before.

edited 18th Jan '12 7:49:24 PM by MrAHR

Preaching to the fucking choir, dude! I'm surrounded by idiots who steadfastly think that sequential art is strictly for kids (on top of most art for that matter)

edited 18th Jan '12 7:49:55 PM by gingerninja666

But... you're a film student. Sequential art I can see the attitude for if they were bad film students (film being the closest comparable medium to comics), but all art? Or where you talking about family and the like?