My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic Forum Archive (nuked Western Animation thread)
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Japanese Teeth avatar
#68926 from Meinong's jungle
@Apple: When you "homophobia" fics do you mean fics that simply involve homophobia as a plot point, or fics that espouse homophobia? Because if it's the latter, both types of stories suck.

@AHR: If he's talking about fics that encourage homophobia, I understand where he's coming from. If he dislikes the inclusion of homophobia even in a non-prescriptive context, it's a bit of an overreaction.

edited 11th Jan '12 6:35:48 PM by JapaneseTeeth

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Mousa The 14 avatar
#68927 from Northern Virginia
Applejack Pony, you silence, AHR is right you know. Quality trumps premise. This show is evidence of that idea.

edited 11th Jan '12 6:35:22 PM by MousaThe14

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#68928 from Sweet Apple Acres
[up][up] Espousing homophobia or making one of the mane cast a raging homophobic bigot, which falls under Character Derailment.

[up] Name one good gore fanfic.

edited 11th Jan '12 6:36:35 PM by ApplejackPony

Mr AHR avatar
#68929 from ಠ_ಠ
I've read perfectly well done stories where characters were homophobic.

Granted, it was a TF 2 fanfic, so 1950s and all that, but having characters being homophobic can be done well.

Applejack: Does it have to be MLP? Because the other site I frequent has this guy into medical guro and he writes fanfiction of it, and he writes it MAD well.

edited 11th Jan '12 6:37:33 PM by MrAHR

Japanese Teeth avatar
#68930 from Meinong's jungle
[up][up]The first is just straight up bad. The latter could theoretically be done well, but it would have to be a pretty obvious AU and it would still seem incredibly OOC unless they used a background pony.

[up]I think the issue is more taking characters whose canon personalities aren't homophobic and making them as such. Like I could not imagine AJ being a gaybasher. I can imagine her being a bit confused and maybe ignorant, but she would never drive anypony to suicide over it.

edited 11th Jan '12 6:38:24 PM by JapaneseTeeth

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#68931 from The Moon
I'm with Apple Pie here, there is no way that kind of hatered could be in characters that litearly represent the aspects of Haromny and Acceptence.
Applejack Pony avatar
#68932 from Sweet Apple Acres
[up] I mean making th—

You know what, fuck this. Nobody will ever understand me.

Mane cast. Friendship is Magic. Not other characters from other... things.
Sky Strike avatar
#68933 from over the Rainboom
I smell flamewar. I'm going to bed. Night guys.
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Mousa The 14 avatar
#68934 from Northern Virginia
I wouldn't know, I don't read gore fanfiction.
I analyze "Geek Culture" here.

When All Else Fails, worry, that's the 14 way.
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#68935 from ಠ_ಠ
Characters can be mistaken. After all, everyone was afraid of Zecora, and learned they were mistaken.
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#68936 from Sweet Apple Acres
@AHR Well yeah, I'm talking about MLP fanfic, not fanfic in general...
Applelight Limited avatar
#68937 from Manehattan to Canterlot
Flaws maketh character...even really bad ones like racism, homophobia etc.

If it's needed, stick it in.
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Japanese Teeth avatar
#68938 from Meinong's jungle
The keyword being needed. A lot of people stick stuff like that in just for shock value, which cheapens it a lot.
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L Mage avatar
#68939 from The Moon
Did I do something wrong Apple Pie? D: What did I say?
Crowind avatar
#68940
@Applelight: Rainbow, who sometimes drop by, and Sessalisk are female.* Does knowing that change anything?
Mr AHR avatar
#68941 from ಠ_ಠ
Well, if there is good gore fanfic in general, I am sure there are some well written ones in MLP. You just have to be

A) into it, some people like it, not much you can do about that

B) willing to dig through the trash, just like any fanfic community.

edited 11th Jan '12 6:39:53 PM by MrAHR

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#68942 from Aboard The Damocles
@Applejack I'm with you. Quality may trump premise, but the premise should succeed in enticing you to read it first.

Homophobia is just one of those things that I DON'T want to see mixed with MLP
"Schneizel! So you ARE the puppet master behind all this!" - Lelouch Lamperouge

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Applejack Pony avatar
#68943 from Sweet Apple Acres
I. Am. Talking. About. Derailing. The. Canon. Characterization. Of. The. Mane. Six. Not. Other. Characters. From. Other. Works. Get. That. Through. Your. Thick. Fucking. Skulls.

No L Mage you did not say anything wrong.

edited 11th Jan '12 6:40:59 PM by ApplejackPony

Mousa The 14 avatar
#68944 from Northern Virginia
@Applelight, Thou speaketh the truth

@Japanese Teeth, Thou also speaketh the truth.

edited 11th Jan '12 6:40:39 PM by MousaThe14

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Applelight Limited avatar
#68945 from Manehattan to Canterlot
@ S Ky Strike

Don't go to sleep, I'd need you in the workshop. smile
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Mr AHR avatar
#68946 from ಠ_ಠ
It's not necessarily a derail. Like I said, almost all the ponies were anti-Zecora, which is a form of bigotry. It probably isn't always written well, but it can be.
Japanese Teeth avatar
#68947 from Meinong's jungle
@Apple: Yup, I agree with this. One of the main reasons I don't like gore fics either.

edited 11th Jan '12 6:41:50 PM by JapaneseTeeth

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Mousa The 14 avatar
#68948 from Northern Virginia
@Applejack Pony, so a double standard because MLP is specialier than any other story?
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#68949 from Sweet Apple Acres

Wow. That was rude. Too many of this kind of thump will bring a suspension. Please keep it civil.Thumped.
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#68950 from Manehattan to Canterlot
@ Crowind

Well at least there's some. *shrugs sholdiers*
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