MLP Forum Archive - Page 2758

#68926 Japanese Teeth Wed, 11th Jan '12 6:34:23 PM from Meinong's jungle

@Apple: When you "homophobia" fics do you mean fics that simply involve homophobia as a plot point, or fics that espouse homophobia? Because if it's the latter, both types of stories suck.

@AHR: If he's talking about fics that encourage homophobia, I understand where he's coming from. If he dislikes the inclusion of homophobia even in a non-prescriptive context, it's a bit of an overreaction.

edited 11th Jan '12 6:35:48 PM by JapaneseTeeth

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#68927 Mousa The 14 Wed, 11th Jan '12 6:35:00 PM from Northern Virginia

Applejack Pony, you silence, AHR is right you know. Quality trumps premise. This show is evidence of that idea.

edited 11th Jan '12 6:35:22 PM by MousaThe14

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#68928 Applejack Pony Wed, 11th Jan '12 6:35:29 PM from Sweet Apple Acres

Espousing homophobia or making one of the mane cast a raging homophobic bigot, which falls under Character Derailment.

Name one good gore fanfic.

edited 11th Jan '12 6:36:35 PM by ApplejackPony

#68929 Mr AHR Wed, 11th Jan '12 6:36:14 PM from ಠ_ಠ

I've read perfectly well done stories where characters were homophobic.

Granted, it was a TF 2 fanfic, so 1950s and all that, but having characters being homophobic can be done well.

Applejack: Does it have to be MLP? Because the other site I frequent has this guy into medical guro and he writes fanfiction of it, and he writes it MAD well.

edited 11th Jan '12 6:37:33 PM by MrAHR

#68930 Japanese Teeth Wed, 11th Jan '12 6:36:54 PM from Meinong's jungle

The first is just straight up bad. The latter could theoretically be done well, but it would have to be a pretty obvious AU and it would still seem incredibly OOC unless they used a background pony.

I think the issue is more taking characters whose canon personalities aren't homophobic and making them as such. Like I could not imagine AJ being a gaybasher. I can imagine her being a bit confused and maybe ignorant, but she would never drive anypony to suicide over it.

edited 11th Jan '12 6:38:24 PM by JapaneseTeeth

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#68931 L Mage Wed, 11th Jan '12 6:37:09 PM from The Moon

I'm with Apple Pie here, there is no way that kind of hatered could be in characters that litearly represent the aspects of Haromny and Acceptence.

#68932 Applejack Pony Wed, 11th Jan '12 6:37:29 PM from Sweet Apple Acres

I mean making th—

You know what, fuck this. Nobody will ever understand me.

Mane cast. Friendship is Magic. Not other characters from other... things.

#68933 Sky Strike Wed, 11th Jan '12 6:37:35 PM from over the Rainboom

I smell flamewar. I'm going to bed. Night guys.

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#68934 Mousa The 14 Wed, 11th Jan '12 6:38:12 PM from Northern Virginia

I wouldn't know, I don't read gore fanfiction.

I analyze "Geek Culture" here.

When All Else Fails, worry, that's the 14 way.

#68935 Mr AHR Wed, 11th Jan '12 6:38:12 PM from ಠ_ಠ

Characters can be mistaken. After all, everyone was afraid of Zecora, and learned they were mistaken.

#68936 Applejack Pony Wed, 11th Jan '12 6:38:17 PM from Sweet Apple Acres

@AHR Well yeah, I'm talking about MLP fanfic, not fanfic in general...

#68937 Applelight Limited Wed, 11th Jan '12 6:38:18 PM from Manehattan to Canterlot

Flaws maketh character...even really bad ones like racism, homophobia etc.

If it's needed, stick it in.

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#68938 Japanese Teeth Wed, 11th Jan '12 6:39:17 PM from Meinong's jungle

The keyword being needed. A lot of people stick stuff like that in just for shock value, which cheapens it a lot.

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#68939 L Mage Wed, 11th Jan '12 6:39:27 PM from The Moon

Did I do something wrong Apple Pie? D: What did I say?

#68940 Crowind Wed, 11th Jan '12 6:39:29 PM

@Applelight: Rainbow, who sometimes drop by, and Sessalisk are female.* Does knowing that change anything?

#68941 Mr AHR Wed, 11th Jan '12 6:39:32 PM from ಠ_ಠ

Well, if there is good gore fanfic in general, I am sure there are some well written ones in MLP. You just have to be

A) into it, some people like it, not much you can do about that

B) willing to dig through the trash, just like any fanfic community.

edited 11th Jan '12 6:39:53 PM by MrAHR

#68942 gingerninja 666 Wed, 11th Jan '12 6:39:56 PM from Aboard The Damocles

@Applejack I'm with you. Quality may trump premise, but the premise should succeed in enticing you to read it first.

Homophobia is just one of those things that I DON'T want to see mixed with MLP

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#68943 Applejack Pony Wed, 11th Jan '12 6:39:59 PM from Sweet Apple Acres

I. Am. Talking. About. Derailing. The. Canon. Characterization. Of. The. Mane. Six. Not. Other. Characters. From. Other. Works. Get. That. Through. Your. Thick. Fucking. Skulls.

No L Mage you did not say anything wrong.

edited 11th Jan '12 6:40:59 PM by ApplejackPony

#68944 Mousa The 14 Wed, 11th Jan '12 6:40:01 PM from Northern Virginia

@Applelight, Thou speaketh the truth

@Japanese Teeth, Thou also speaketh the truth.

edited 11th Jan '12 6:40:39 PM by MousaThe14

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When All Else Fails, worry, that's the 14 way.

#68945 Applelight Limited Wed, 11th Jan '12 6:40:09 PM from Manehattan to Canterlot

@ S Ky Strike

Don't go to sleep, I'd need you in the workshop.

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#68946 Mr AHR Wed, 11th Jan '12 6:40:43 PM from ಠ_ಠ

It's not necessarily a derail. Like I said, almost all the ponies were anti-Zecora, which is a form of bigotry. It probably isn't always written well, but it can be.

#68947 Japanese Teeth Wed, 11th Jan '12 6:41:18 PM from Meinong's jungle

@Apple: Yup, I agree with this. One of the main reasons I don't like gore fics either.

edited 11th Jan '12 6:41:50 PM by JapaneseTeeth

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#68948 Mousa The 14 Wed, 11th Jan '12 6:41:29 PM from Northern Virginia

@Applejack Pony, so a double standard because MLP is specialier than any other story?

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#68949 Applejack Pony Wed, 11th Jan '12 6:42:01 PM from Sweet Apple Acres

Wow. That was rude. Too many of this kind of thump will bring a suspension. Please keep it civil.Thumped.

#68950 Applelight Limited Wed, 11th Jan '12 6:42:16 PM from Manehattan to Canterlot

@ Crowind

Well at least there's some. *shrugs sholdiers*

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