#371801
Sat, 1st Jun '13 8:26:27 AM
from a random Pokècenter
My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic Forum Archive (nuked Western Animation thread)
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#371802
Sat, 1st Jun '13 8:27:39 AM
from Delamare
Per word of Megan, Twilight isn't going to outlive her friends, so no change to her aging.
And we also know that season 4 will have an episode dealing with disability, so it could be the Scoots learns she can never truly fly episode. Or a Derpy one.
As to Sombra, "presence" was what Megan was going for, she intended him to be more of a Sauron type force then a character, which did come off as like that, but could have been handled better. Plus after the over the top amazing characters we've had as villains, it was just weird having one who wasn't.
edited 1st Jun '13 8:29:09 AM by Seraphem
#371803
Sat, 1st Jun '13 8:36:00 AM
from Equestria
Actually, I dare to say he was a better overall villain than Discord and somewhat on par with Chrysalis(Nightmare Moon is IMO too bland to consider). However, the previous two were, like you noted, hilariously over the top and had larger-than-life personalities which makes them whole different characters than Sombra who had a quiet, highly pragmatic approach to things and, like stated, was more of a force-of-nature.
He'd fit more in a book or a video game, to be honest.
Power through knowledge, ascension through magic.
#371804
Sat, 1st Jun '13 8:42:41 AM
from Singapore
@Crimson: aaaaaand added.
#371805
Sat, 1st Jun '13 8:43:19 AM
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Nah, Twilight could still have her aging slowed. It just means the other five need to become alicorns as well.
edited 1st Jun '13 8:43:28 AM by Crowfall
#371806
Sat, 1st Jun '13 8:43:37 AM
Actually we don't know that an alicorn doesn't age. At least ascended ones. Celestia and Luna lived a pretty long-ass time, but they might have been born alicorns or something.
There's a heart that's breaking
down this long-distance line tonight
#371807
Sat, 1st Jun '13 8:44:04 AM
Wow. I found a trope page that doesn't have a MLP example on it. Knight in Sour Armor.
#371808
Sat, 1st Jun '13 8:44:06 AM
from Delamare
Agreed. As a villain, he was one of the most competent and just all around best. Coming damn close to winning and not failing because of his own mistakes.
It's just as a character he failed when compared to the other villains we've had. To reserved, to distant. But yeah as part of a larger story, he'd work better, or in a book.
#371809
Sat, 1st Jun '13 8:44:33 AM
from Over there. Maybe?
Born Alicorns may be naturally immortal, 'made' ones may not be.
#371810
Sat, 1st Jun '13 8:46:44 AM
from Meinong's jungle
Sombra's main issue was that everything we knew about his personality was second-hand. He had a ton of potential, but they didn't really make as much use of it as they could have. I wish we would have actually gotten more out of him than just "RRRR CRYSTALS". Basically, the concept (a unicorn who uses his intelligence and magical skill to take over a nation and make himself dangerous enough that it takes two alicorns to take him down) is pretty awesome, but unfortunately the execution (an evil cloud who growls a lot) didn't do the concept justice.
edited 1st Jun '13 8:48:04 AM by JapaneseTeeth
#371811
Sat, 1st Jun '13 8:52:26 AM
That's pretty much exactly how I feel about Nightmare Moon.
I'll admit that I don't really care much for the concept of Sombra. The Sauron archetype just doesn't do it for me.
#371812
Sat, 1st Jun '13 8:53:41 AM
from Meinong's jungle
Honestly the problem is that they tried to hard to make him into a Sauron type villain when 1. the concept doesn't really meld well with what we know of the character and 2. it's really hard to do that sort of villain when you only have 40 minutes. If he had been a season-spanning villain it would have worked better.
#371813
Sat, 1st Jun '13 8:55:58 AM
Perhaps we get to see him later as a less sauron like villain. I mean its all but stated he will be coming back.
#371814
Sat, 1st Jun '13 8:57:10 AM
I never really thought about that, but you're right. The archetype doesn't meld with what we know of his character. He's much too pragmatic.
Wait, really? Did I miss something?
edited 1st Jun '13 8:57:39 AM by cdrw
#371815
Sat, 1st Jun '13 8:57:46 AM
from Delamare
Actually, while there were hints in the show, Word Of God is he is dead and gone. though would be interesting to see him in backstory, see his rise to power and first defeat.
#371816
Sat, 1st Jun '13 8:58:19 AM
from Over there. Maybe?
@JT We need one of those villains at some point. And I want dark magic back, if only for a 'Twilight flirts with evil' episode.
edited 1st Jun '13 8:58:44 AM by edvedd
#371817
Sat, 1st Jun '13 8:58:21 AM
from Equestria
Wasn't it stated though that he's the only villain to be actually killed? Ah, got ninja'd.
Also, that talk about alicorn creation makes me wonder... Cadence is probably a natural alicorn. Maybe. However, where are her parents? Were they alicorns as well or is it some sort of one-of-a-kind magical mutation that happens every one hundred years?
We could use some changelings in Season 4 though.
edited 1st Jun '13 8:58:58 AM by FergardStratoavis
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#371818
Sat, 1st Jun '13 8:58:49 AM
We'll see him later working at a Mc Hays. His horn went blasting off when he was defeated leaving him without magic, and he needs to make money somehow to bankroll his evil schemes.
edited 1st Jun '13 8:59:32 AM by Crowfall
#371819
Sat, 1st Jun '13 8:58:52 AM
from Stardust Road
Well the show shows he can regrow from a fragment of his horn. And then it prominently shows his horn being intact after he exploded.
It's said she ascended from a pegasus in the book that came out.
edited 1st Jun '13 9:00:06 AM by Badwolfwho
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#371820
Sat, 1st Jun '13 9:00:14 AM
from Over there. Maybe?
Well, depending on how seriously you take stuff not explicitly mentioned in the show, the junior novel 'Twilight Sparkle and the Crystal Heart Spell' states that Cadence was an orphaned pegasus who defeated an evil queen, some stuff happened, and then Alicorn.
#371821
Sat, 1st Jun '13 9:00:38 AM
Didn't one of the book things talk about Cadence's alicornization?
Yeah, that one.
Yeah, that one.
edited 1st Jun '13 9:00:55 AM by KylerThatch
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#371822
Sat, 1st Jun '13 9:01:21 AM
from Over there. Maybe?
Yup. Whether that gets referenced properly in the show is not known.
#371823
Sat, 1st Jun '13 9:03:06 AM
from Equestria
...huh.
Seems Twilight had it the easy way then.
Power through knowledge, ascension through magic.
#371824
Sat, 1st Jun '13 9:03:18 AM
Cadence was an orphaned pegasus who defeated an evil queen, some stuff happened, and then Alicorn.
This description is just vague enough to apply perfectly to Twilight as well, except without the orphan part.
edited 1st Jun '13 9:03:41 AM by Crowfall
#371825
Sat, 1st Jun '13 9:03:55 AM
from Stardust Road
Except for the pegasus description. And the name Cadence.
edited 1st Jun '13 9:04:20 AM by Badwolfwho
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