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#366776 kegisak Mon, 13th May '13 10:42:10 AM

The Ponyville confidential one could actually be an interesting setup for something, But the Mare Do Well idea is, quite frankly, rather tiresome when you consider the mane six never did anything THAT bad. I mean, they were no saints and there was probably an better way of handling the situation than they did, but they didn't even actively mislead Dash. Everything bad that happened to Dash was her own damn fault.

#366777 Mio Mon, 13th May '13 10:49:42 AM

Mare Do Well is something that really shouldn't have a big overblown event directly afterwards, but I can see it negatively effecting their relationship in the long-term, and implies some not so nice feelings and opinions that could be explored, just not in anyway that I think your standard fan fic author is capable of.

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#366778 Morning Star 1337 Mon, 13th May '13 10:49:53 AM

So I think I'll write a Deconstruction Fic of "Ponyville Confidential" to pass some time.

edited 13th May '13 10:50:25 AM by MorningStar1337

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#366779 darkabomination Mon, 13th May '13 10:52:50 AM from deep within the Time Vortex

I could have gotten the whole thing wrong, but has anyone ever considered the past version of Twilight is in a time paradox? If she spends the entire week trying to prevent a disaster only for her future self to warn her of said disaster, then then how did Twilight learn where the time travel spell was? Her future self told her, and her past learned this from her future self, but she never actually learned it to begin with.

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#366780 crimsonstorm 15 Mon, 13th May '13 10:56:01 AM from A parallel universe

ugh... my head hurts.

you're stronger than you think you are.

#366781 Death Cloud Mon, 13th May '13 10:58:20 AM from Horsehead Nebula

Not sure what is going in this thread so I leave this picture of Rainbow lurking.

http://www.derpibooru.org/324062

Because he know I'm going to go out in this plane and I'm going to remove one of His creations from His universe.

#366782 Sereg Mon, 13th May '13 11:04:12 AM from South Africa

@dark: It's a Stable Time Loop. Pretty normal things and way less paradoxical than most Time Travel.

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#366783 Applelight Limited Mon, 13th May '13 11:10:25 AM from Manehattan to Canterlot

Sorry drawing is taking so long, got embroiled in something there.

Tealove is best pony. Ask The Mane Six

#366784 Death Cloud Mon, 13th May '13 11:13:06 AM from Horsehead Nebula

Paradoks would be if Twilight in end could change past or didn't go back in time at all.

And what we got it was standerd Stable Loop. Not fan of those but It's not something what ruined my enjoyment (and i love that episdoe).

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#366785 Sereg Mon, 13th May '13 11:41:52 AM from South Africa

It's actually one of my absolute favourite episodes.

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#366786 kegisak Mon, 13th May '13 11:47:40 AM

Yeah, It's About Time demonstrated your garden variety, one-size-fits-all timeline: Whatever you do to alter the past isn't really an alteration, because it already happened in the past. Think of it like Narrative Causality: It happened because it happened.

And somewhere, in a cafe where a cup of coffee is spilled by a lonely mare onto the lap of a handsome stallion, a stallion levitating a small umbrella smiled knowingly.

#366787 Morning Star 1337 Mon, 13th May '13 12:11:19 PM

Anyway Regarding my Deconstruction Fic idea I need some help with how to start it. (Do I start at the point where the CMC give Diamond Tiara the letter or start slightly after the town reads the paper?)

edited 13th May '13 12:12:23 PM by MorningStar1337

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#366788 kegisak Mon, 13th May '13 12:14:39 PM

Depends on how you want to go about it. If you want it to be a sort of mystery off the hop, I'd start it in medias res. Otherwise, it's just simpler to establish it from the beginning of the plot.

I'd take this to the fanfic thread, by the by. IT's basically what we're there for, so...

#366789 Morning Star 1337 Mon, 13th May '13 12:15:51 PM

I was unaware we had a fanfic thread. Can you link it?

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#366790 kegisak Mon, 13th May '13 12:22:12 PM

Sure. Here it is

. I had actually sworn I'd seen you on there before, but I guess not.

#366791 Morning Star 1337 Mon, 13th May '13 12:23:53 PM

Thanks.

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#366792 Meta Four Mon, 13th May '13 12:36:56 PM from riding the wave

Doesn't Bruce Timm, like, really like Zatanna?

He married a real-life stage magician woman. Who, from what I've heard, really does wear fishnet stockings.

I could have gotten the whole thing wrong, but has anyone ever considered the past version of Twilight is in a time paradox? If she spends the entire week trying to prevent a disaster only for her future self to warn her of said disaster, then then how did Twilight learn where the time travel spell was? Her future self told her, and her past learned this from her future self, but she never actually learned it to begin with.

Ah yes, the good old Ontological Paradox. It helps to assume that the universe functions under Block Time (basically, there's only one timeline and only one past—the time traveler's influence on the past has always been there).

And, since today is apparently National Jump To Conclusions Day...

#366793 Irish Zombie Mon, 13th May '13 12:37:41 PM from Texas

A day at the beach.

I have no hat and I must scream.

#366794 kegisak Mon, 13th May '13 12:40:17 PM

Wouldn't it only apply as an Ontological Paradox if Twilight did something that would impede past-her going on the quest in the first place? I mean, she may have attempted to, but she failed, so it's not properly a paradox of any sort.

EDIT: Nevermind, I assumed that paradox implied there was some kind of fault in the timeline, not simply that the loop was self-starting(And therefore technically started by nothing at all, which admittedly probably only works so long as the universe doesn't think to hard about it).

edited 13th May '13 12:43:55 PM by kegisak

#366795 Meta Four Mon, 13th May '13 12:44:29 PM from riding the wave

No, that's the Grandfather Paradox.

Grandfather paradox: a self-defeating time loop.

Ontological paradox: self-creating time loop.

EDIT: Why the frig does Ontological Paradox redirect to Stable Time Loop rather than to Temporal Paradox?

edited 13th May '13 12:46:07 PM by MetaFour

And, since today is apparently National Jump To Conclusions Day...

#366796 kegisak Mon, 13th May '13 12:45:41 PM

Duly noted.

#366797 Japanese Teeth Mon, 13th May '13 12:53:19 PM from Meinong's jungle

Probably because there's so much overlap. But yeah, the redirect you mentioned would be far more fitting.

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#366798 darkabomination Mon, 13th May '13 1:01:37 PM from deep within the Time Vortex

Yay, then I am making sense! I's a winner.

But for the record, I do quite enjoy the episode. Second to the Cutie Mark Chronicles as my favorite episode of the series.

Zagreus sits inside your head, Zagreus lives among the dead. Zagreus sees you in your bed, And eats you when you're sleeping.

#366799 Meta Four Mon, 13th May '13 1:22:42 PM from riding the wave

"It's About Time" is one of my favorite episodes, too. Best Pony and time travel in the same episode? Very yes.

And, since today is apparently National Jump To Conclusions Day...

#366800 Sereg Mon, 13th May '13 1:24:22 PM from South Africa

It's my fifth favourite episode.

Fourth is Return of Harmony

Third is Lesson Zero.

Second is Hurricane Fluttershy.

First is A Canterlot Wedding.

W Hatever that says about me.

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