The Simpsons is an example of that done wrong. Their story has been rewritten so many times its just lost all meaning.

@Seraphem: Hmm... 1, 2, 3... 3 arrows points to my post.

I don't even know why I hate Shining Armor and Cadance's introduction anymore.

Well the CMC appeared in the first episode and I remembered some macro images calling that a plothole.

When I first started the show I had no idea who the characters were and it DID came as a bit of schock to see Sweetie suddenly there. It was also funny reading some old fanfics that have them as orphans and then POW their parents show up!

I don´t mind new elements introduced, did Mrs. Cake looked pregnant at any moment? Her babies just...showed up. I mind when its kind of important. I can forgive Shining and Cadence but I have problems with Twilight singing a song about the most important pony in her life...that she never mentioned once.

And her friend don´t looked schocked, they don´t even care. Altought I do liked Applejack she seemed sincere and in character but the rest don´t even blink when Twilight mentions Shining.

edited 12th Jan '13 5:53:36 PM by Alesiopdv

@Applelight: I know, right? They've been going on for so long that they've actually RECYCLED older episode plots over and over again. It's like almost every season has at least one episode where Marge has to deal with Homers problems, or Homer does something to upset Lisa. It shows how much the writers have no clue WTF their doing. And the charectors lost everything that made them likeable, too.

Thankfully Mlp Fim will never go down that path, even with the occusional flaws here and there.

edited 12th Jan '13 5:54:21 PM by marston

You didn't here their "Your brother!?" look no, sound yes. And the fact she had to follow up with the song explaining who he was, yeah they didn't know either, and, i could see Twilight not thinking to tell them that, just because, no book told her to.

Yes you shouldn't and new stuff just to add new stuff, but you should never stop if what you add adds to the narrative as a whole, which so far everything has.

The "plothole" of the CMC in the pilot, explained in Cutie Mark Chronicles, even before meeting and becoming friends, they had a connection and instinctively sought comfort in each other.

Yeah, that's not a plot hole, that's "Three fillies were scared and happened to hide in the same place."

Umh I could be wrong but I think Twilight says My Brother? and the rest said...nothing. Applejack just says "Your brother is getting married congratulations!" and that was it. I may need to check out.

EDIT: I checked, They never said your brother.

edited 12th Jan '13 6:03:46 PM by Alesiopdv

Soo... they weren't that surprised to find that Twilight hadn't mentioned her brother? Twilight doesn't seem the type to talk about her family at length, after all.

Yeah, because the fact that people have siblings is SO surprising. I nearly dropped a brick when I found out my coworker was going to his brother's house for Christmas.

Troper Editors of this thread, I have come to announce that I have updated the character page with a split of the old "Canon Foreigners" page into Expanded Universe and Miscellaneous. With the Expanded Universe expanding this year with comics and books and a series manual (oh my!), I felt it was important to put the real Canon Foreigners into their own nice little section. The Miscellaneous page will be for any non-canonical but still official (like t-shirt ponies) characters.

This has been a Wiki Curator update! You may continue discussing bad fanficition and who is Best Pony.

EDIT: I can never link the character pages properly it seems...

edited 12th Jan '13 6:03:55 PM by Calnos

Ummm no rewatch, she say "The maraige of Mi Amore Cadenza and.... MY BROTHER!" Follwed by the rest of them shooting into frame to read the letter and all saying "Your Brother!?" at once, then cut to opening song.

That's the problem with Negative Continuity. But then you don't watch The Simpsons for the story.

I checked again, sorry to say they never said your brother? You have any other version of the episode, cause the one I checked she just says my brother and then fades to black. Then again its not THAT important. I just feel like the song comes out of nowhere, then again this is the same mare than when told "times is of essence" starts singing and dancing around Canterlot.

Priorities, what are those?" says Twilight.

Okay, could have sword they did, but they act like she might not have mentioned him in more then passing before, and agina, knowing Twi, I could see her doing.

and the songs are one of the best parts of the show, and for the most part, can be seen as artistic licenses showing what does happen, notihg says she ACTAULLY sang that song as she walked, it's just showing how she felt, with the excpetion of the Pinkie songs, most feel more like they aren't really happeneing, well and raise this barn

edited 12th Jan '13 6:13:18 PM by Seraphem

There's always time for an extended song and dance number.

Shit...I hope choosing now to redecorate dosn't come back to bite me. It meant a lot of potential studying time was spent on painting walls and fixing shelves. I've still a week left until the test, so lots of hours to work with...y'know what? I say Twilight is lucky...I'd rather go on a quest to save a kingdom than have to memorise dates and names.

@Seraphem: Whether the songs are any good or not depends on the individual. I think that some of them are amazing, but some of them throw off the pacing of the episodes.

With musicals, the conceipt is generally that the songs don't actually happen. Songs usually either represent the inner thoughts of a character or represent things that happened nonmusically in reality.

i've yet to find one that wasn't amazing, and like I said, a lot of them, I'd say are more symbolic then actually taking place and being sung in 'verse. Not all but some.

what he said. though some of them DO actaully happen,

edited 12th Jan '13 6:21:06 PM by Seraphem

Just got back from the Hobbit. Oh my god, Fluttershy is so Radagast the Brown it's no even funny.

Flutter brown?

From the preview

Twi's many expressions

People seem to like Celly acting like a cat/dog/real horse. I can't blame them.

edited 12th Jan '13 6:28:59 PM by Lopiny

Ha Fluttershy the Brown [1]