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#215826 from the Moon
Maybe Celestia and Luna (and maybe some of their old friends) had to go on an epic quest to find the Elements.

wild mass guessThe Elements were made by aliens.wild mass guess
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#215827 from Stardust Road
My opinion is that Celestia and Luna each had command of three Elements.
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#215828 from Horsehead Nebula
wild mass guessElement were create by cosmic being what feed of power of Harmony, Friendship and Love, to protect their food sourcewild mass guess
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Sereg avatar
#215829 from South Africa
I like to think that the other four bearers who stopped Discord became the stars that freed Nightmare Moon.
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#215830 from Aboard The Damocles
Yeah, I figured that Luna and Celestia each wielded more than one element. Just by virtue of the fact that they're alicorns, but as a trade off, they're overall ability to wield the elements isn't as potent (I take this from the line Celestia said about the cast harnassing the full power of the elements to purge Luna)
"Contests fought between two masters are decided instantly. An invisible battle is now raging between the two of them." Lulu vs Schneizel
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#215831 from the Moon
I know we've had this discussion before, but which Elements do you think they wielded?

I'd give Laughter to Celestia (for her trolling and pranking habits).tongue

edited 6th Jun '12 2:28:31 PM by PurpleDalek

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#215832 from Stardust Road
I think Celestia and Luna can harness the Elements to their full effect, but Celestia alone (or Luna alone but that hasn't happened) can't.

Luna: Magic, Generosity, Loyalty.

Celestia: Honesty, Kindness, Laughter.

edited 6th Jun '12 2:28:48 PM by Badwolfwho

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#215833 from Aboard The Damocles
[up] I'm also of the opinion that Luna's heart resonated with her elements and allowed them to send her to the moon

edited 6th Jun '12 2:29:05 PM by gingerninja666

"Contests fought between two masters are decided instantly. An invisible battle is now raging between the two of them." Lulu vs Schneizel
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#215834
@Sereg: I had a theory along those lines awhile back. I thought that the reason they were only able to imprison Luna and not save her was because they only had five element bearers, and that four of them became those stars so that she could eventually be saved.
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#215835 from Aboard The Damocles
nvm

edited 6th Jun '12 2:30:03 PM by gingerninja666

"Contests fought between two masters are decided instantly. An invisible battle is now raging between the two of them." Lulu vs Schneizel
stevebat avatar
#215836
I personally believe that Celestia's using the elements on Luna caused a serious rift severing Celestia from the elements and rendering them inert.
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#215837 from Canada
Lurker: Yea, true.

I also subscribe to the same 3/3 split as Bad.

My theory is that the Elements can be multi-wielded, but because it's hard for a pony to strongly embody all six at once, the Elements are much weaker when only one pony wields them (Celestia vs Nightmare Moon) compared to when six ponies who each embody their primary Element in an exceptional way work together, which brings out the true power of the Elements. I imagine the power with Celly and Luna each tri-wielding would be more skewed toward the six pony side, rather than sitting right in the middle between one and six ponies, though.
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#215838
Only problem with my theory is it took discord a FUCKING long time to unseal himself. I wonder why that is?
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#215839 from the Moon
Celestia really shouldn't have put Discord's statue in a public area.......
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#215840
It does make sense that Celestia and Luna both had three elements, since they embody the three pony races. I don't have a strong attachment to my theory, but I would like to know what the deal with those four stars was.
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#215841 from a random Pokècenter
@ steve: I thought discord unsealing himself was a result of cutie brigade having an argument in his vicinity?

edited 6th Jun '12 2:36:00 PM by Blissey1

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#215842
@Blissey1: The episode explicitly states that the weakening of his prison was due to the elements changing hooves.
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Sereg avatar
#215843 from South Africa
I believe that the elements only lost their connection to the sisters when the Mane 6 took them.

EDIT: sort of ninja'd

edited 6th Jun '12 2:38:48 PM by Sereg

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#215844 from a random Pokècenter
yeah, weakening, not full on breaking.
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#215845 from Horsehead Nebula
I still think Disqord statue was only one of many (made to celebrate victory over him), and during NMM incident original statue was lost and ended in that gardens while other statue was mistaken as real thing (big SCP Fouldation screwup :P)
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#215846
But sitting inert for a thousand years doesn't have any effect? That just bugs me me
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#215847 from the Moon
I thought discord unsealing himself was a result of cutie brigade having an argument in his vicinity?

Again, Celestia REALLY shouldn't have put that damn statue in a public place.tongue
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#215848 from Aboard The Damocles
Again, I always figured that Celestia didn't IMMEDIATELY use the elements because she figured that they wouldn't work with only her wielding them. Cue fight between Celestia and NM. When it was over, and Tia literally had no other choice left, she tried to use the elements. To her surprise, Luna's elements were faintly glowing too. NM herself recoiled in surprise at that, enough to allow Tia to fire. Celestia then tried to purge Luna, but it just wouldn't completely work. She'd be able to partially cleanse her, but then the hatred and anger would slowly begin to slip back into Luna's voice after a few seconds. Realising she had no other choice, Tia sealed her sis away.

That's just how I imagined it (shrug)
"Contests fought between two masters are decided instantly. An invisible battle is now raging between the two of them." Lulu vs Schneizel
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#215849 from South Africa
Celestia had Discord outside so she'd know instantly if he escaped. Do you really think he coudn't have escaped a prison?
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#215850 from the Land of Classics
@Moe I hate her. Hate her alot. To point I want something bad happen to her even if she don't deserve it in universe.

Why? What did cute widdle Megan ever do to you?

Personally Megan is one of the few things I liked from G1 Canon... though, I hated how they gave her a more "girly" outfit in the movie and TV series (as opposed to the leather jacket, blue jeans and cowboy boots she wore in the original "Midnight Castle" pilot).

...

And sigh, I'm stuck again on a "Surprise Days" story that involves Discord. It again raises the question of whether I even want him to be a part of my fanfic's canon, or if I should just edit out the two stories that do feature him.
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