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#197801 gingerninja 666 Fri, 18th May '12 6:18:39 PM from Aboard The Damocles

I walked out into the streets of manhattan barefoot one day to get breakfast

"Contests fought between two masters are decided instantly. An invisible battle is now raging between the two of them." Lulu vs Schneizel

#197802 Perpetual Lurker Fri, 18th May '12 6:18:42 PM

@Ginger It's not that you're completely wrong, it's just that there are nearly infinite ways to write a story, and any of them could conceivably be done well. You're missing a huge chunk of the picture.

#197803 Sky Strike Fri, 18th May '12 6:18:46 PM from Trottingham

NC is a pretty boring state, so there's not much to talk about.

If you stare into the abyss long enough, it stares into you.

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#197804 Seraphem Fri, 18th May '12 6:18:56 PM from Delamare

@ Ginger..ummm no. you do NOT need a good or even A villian to tell a good story. Yes you need some form of conflict, but that doesn't mean a villain.

and I love the Mario games, even the non-RPG's have some fun little plot points.

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#197805 storyyeller Fri, 18th May '12 6:19:00 PM from Appleloosa

I've never traveled anywhere further than 3 states.

I've been to the majority of states in the country. Maybe I should try counting the,

If there is anything that you are alone in thinking, it's "thinking that you're alone in thinking of your theories".

#197806 Chadaman 99 Fri, 18th May '12 6:19:01 PM

A hero can drive a story too right? Especially if the quest is to discover themselves.

#197807 Bluespade Fri, 18th May '12 6:19:08 PM from Texas

The only places I've visited are Chicago (have quite a bit of family there), Colorado Springs, San Diego, and Los Angelas.

Element of Dullness.

#197808 kegisak Fri, 18th May '12 6:19:28 PM

@Moe, Ginger: While it's certainly not a hard and fast rule, it's not without merit. Any genre or story that has a specific villain, the villain is often the impetus to the plot. Of course at the same time they can just as often be an obstacle for the protagonist's goal, meaning the protagonist was the impetus and the antagonist isn't driving the plot.

It doesn't make the villains less important, but it's good to keep in mind that there are genres that can, and often do, do without.

#197809 Perpetual Lurker Fri, 18th May '12 6:20:34 PM

What drives a story isn't even conflict. It's motive. Someone has to want to do something, and act upon it.

edited 18th May '12 6:21:11 PM by PerpetualLurker

#197810 Japanese Teeth Fri, 18th May '12 6:21:13 PM from Meinong's jungle

@Ginger: I doubt he was talking to you specifically, and even then he wasn't saying that villains are bad, just that they aren't required. Like I said before, you need a conflict, and a villain (or more broadly, antagonist) is a common way of doing that. But it's in no way necessary for a story to have a villain.

Yeah, but if something isn't impeding that motivation in some way, the story isn't going to be very interesting.

edited 18th May '12 6:22:12 PM by JapaneseTeeth

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#197811 Chadaman 99 Fri, 18th May '12 6:22:07 PM

Take Pokemon Red and Blue. It had Giovanni has the main antagonist yet the story didn't revolve around him. It revolved around you getting stronger and being the best.

But that's a videogame so meh.

#197812 gingerninja 666 Fri, 18th May '12 6:22:20 PM from Aboard The Damocles

@Lurker I don't think I am. With the sole exception of this show, and even this show has antagonists who are my favourite characters. and House (which again, has antagonists) I have never been interested enough in a villainless work to rewatch it again after I've seen it.

I don't know what that says about me

"Contests fought between two masters are decided instantly. An invisible battle is now raging between the two of them." Lulu vs Schneizel

#197813 Orion Aurora Fri, 18th May '12 6:22:44 PM from Andromeda Galaxy

Thread hop. I see we're closing the 8000th page.

Yeah, Andromeda is heading for you. You got over 9000 years until it collides.

#197814 kegisak Fri, 18th May '12 6:22:52 PM

In fact, I find the best stories to be about a conflict of motive. Not simply that one party wants something and the other wants them to not have it, but each party wants something completely different and their motives mingle. I find it makes both parties the most dynamic, and creates for some interesting plot threads.

#197815 Applelight Limited Fri, 18th May '12 6:23:23 PM from Manehattan to Canterlot

@ Orion

Hi!

Can I pat you on the head?

Tealove is best pony. Ask The Mane Six

#197816 storyyeller Fri, 18th May '12 6:23:41 PM from Appleloosa

The states I can remember having been to are Alabama, Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia, Washington, Wisconsin. So that's at least 36 out of 50, and possibly more. Oddly, I've barely traveled outside the country.

If there is anything that you are alone in thinking, it's "thinking that you're alone in thinking of your theories".

#197817 Perpetual Lurker Fri, 18th May '12 6:23:50 PM

@Ginger Desire to rewatch something means nothing. Some of my favorite shows/movies I'll never rewatch, because I've seen them once, and they left their impression on me, but they can't do it twice.

#197818 Chadaman 99 Fri, 18th May '12 6:24:28 PM

@storyyeller There are countries outside of America?

#197819 storyyeller Fri, 18th May '12 6:24:55 PM from Appleloosa

A lot of things are just boring if you rewatch them.

If there is anything that you are alone in thinking, it's "thinking that you're alone in thinking of your theories".

#197820 crowlover Fri, 18th May '12 6:25:06 PM from Name & Address Withheld

@story And you didn't list my state.

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#197821 Orion Aurora Fri, 18th May '12 6:25:09 PM from Andromeda Galaxy

@Apple: Uh, sure. Why?

Yeah, Andromeda is heading for you. You got over 9000 years until it collides.

#197822 Applelight Limited Fri, 18th May '12 6:26:09 PM from Manehattan to Canterlot

@ Orion

Because you're a cute pony, and you were very kind to me during my ordeal.

Tealove is best pony. Ask The Mane Six

#197823 Moe Dantes Fri, 18th May '12 6:26:14 PM from the Land of Classics

great, so you're against me too?

... Huh?

visit my blog!

#197824 Will Keaton Fri, 18th May '12 6:26:41 PM from Alberta, Canada

Why yes I am from Alberta. Just like it says in the "from" line of every post I've ver made. Why?

edited 18th May '12 6:27:40 PM by WillKeaton

#197825 gingerninja 666 Fri, 18th May '12 6:26:58 PM from Aboard The Damocles

@Perpetual Even so, those works I've seen I've only tolerated in a forced setting. I try to find enjoyment wherever I can when I'm forced to watch something against my will

Stupid colleges. Stupid girls in our class trying to get the boys to "broaden their horizons" and even the guys in my class don't appreciate good villainy. I feel so alone in my class

edited 18th May '12 6:27:33 PM by gingerninja666

"Contests fought between two masters are decided instantly. An invisible battle is now raging between the two of them." Lulu vs Schneizel